[LRUG] Recurring Payments and subscriptions

[Glenn Gillen]

Wish I'd know that was possible. How did you find the number? In the past I've found contacting someone very difficult.

All the said. I ultimately got declined because I couldn't provide a gas bill for my business. Given I was renting a desk and my business address was actually my accountants that was unworkable, but enough to mean PP didn't want to deal with me.

G

> Hi Tim,
> 
> If you don't get approval quickly from Paypal, try calling their tech support guys in the UK. I had one account pending for 3 weeks and then called them up and it was activated that day.
> 
> 
> On 2 Sep 2011, at 10:34, Tim Harding wrote:
> 
>> Yes, +1 on gocardless.com sounding good. We had a hard decline from HSBC when we asked about getting our own Direct Debit facility. They had "no appetite" for that sort of risk.
>> 
>> Still need to accept credit cards too somehow. We're spiking Recurly + PayPal Website Payments Pro (without recurring billing option) for now to see if we can get something up and running relatively quickly. Still pending PayPal approval.
>> 
>> A review of this thread suggests a few successful implementations of Spreedly + various partners in the past year.
>> 
>> I see little evidence of successful Recurly implementations.
>> 
>> Has anyone successfully used Recurly and what were the gateway and banking partners you used?
>> 
>> On another note, a pocket project I run (writersresidence.com) was recently approved for an HSBC merchant account (after banking with them for 2 years). We first applied in December 2010… I think I'll give Spreedly + RealEx a go for that one. The only risk stipulation on that account is that the hold funds for 10 days.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Tim
>> 
>> On Thursday, 1 September 2011 at 19:02, Tom Blomfield wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello - thought I'd chip in. Disclaimer: I'm promoting my own company!
>>> 
>>> I've been a long-time subscriber to LRUG, and I run a company called GoCardless.com (some people may remember GrouPAY.co.uk from previous LRUG events or Hacker News meetups - GoCardless is the version for businesses.).
>>> 
>>> We enable online merchants to accept Direct Debit with zero set-up costs - really cheap recurring payments with a great REST API (built on Rails) & co-branded "checkout" page.  Currently UK-only, but we're expanding to Europe shortly. You don't need a merchant account or any other payments provider - we provide an end-to-end solution, and we're backed by the RBS.
>>> 
>>> If you'd like to find out more, please get in touch.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Tom Blomfield
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, 1 September 2011 at 09:59, Tim Harding wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Opening up this old beauty again:
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone had specific experience with Recurly + Sage Pay + Sage Pay's bundled merchant account provider Elavon?
>>>> 
>>>> It appears that Recurly's hosted payment pages don't meet some of the requirements that Sage Pay mandates around black-listed countries and badging. Elavon, the merchant account provider require VbV or 3D Secure, at which point Recurly can't support them.
>>>> 
>>>> Recurly is an "Approved Partner" for Sage Pay…
>>>> 
>>>> Assembling a string of three providers that work together well seems to be a real pain in the arse.
>>>> 
>>>> Apparently Barclays and HSBC are both pretty relaxed about 3D Secure/VbV so there's some hope in that direction.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday, 31 January 2011 at 15:02, Paul Campbell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Paypal Payments Standard is really a fantastic, fantastic solution,
>>>>> for what it is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With some coaxing, you can also get Paypal Payments Express up and
>>>>> running, which is slightly less obtrusive, and lets you use their API
>>>>> rather than IPN to be sure a payment goes through:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.codyfauser.com/2008/1/17/paypal-express-payments-with-activemerchant
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for RealEx with a merchant account, but getting a merchant account,
>>>>> for me, isn't really worth the hassle when it's an MVP. I have one,
>>>>> but I'm paying monthly for the privilege and not making enough back to
>>>>> cover it!
>>>>> 
>>>>> —P
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Chris Parsons
>>>>> <chris at edendevelopment.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On 31 January 2011 13:54, Tim Harding <tim.harding at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> It's a shame you've had a different experience, it was a very easy way to
>>>>>>> get up and going on day one for us.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same here: I got Paypal up and running a few years back very easily
>>>>>> using recurring payments. We did go through the same process that Tim
>>>>>> did, verifying our bank accounts etc, but it wasn't much hassle. Our
>>>>>> implementation is a very simple subscribe button which redirects to
>>>>>> Paypal's payment pages, so that might explain the difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30 January 2011 16:40, George Palmer <george.palmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've had numerous problems in the past getting PayPal to turn recurring
>>>>>>>>> billing on. You need to pay for their Website Payments Pro account,
>>>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>>>> not a simple transaction: it's pretty much a full merchant account
>>>>>>>>> application, and the bar they ask you to jump over is relatively high.
>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>> need to have been trading for 3+ years with them, and have a reasonable
>>>>>>>>> trading history with them on their standard package before they'll
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> consider you, in my experience.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if that's still the case, or if it is, we seemed to have
>>>>>>>> slipped through the net.  We setup on a new business account and at
>>>>>>>> the time of applying for recurring payments, had been a company for
>>>>>>>> less than 2 years.
>>>>>>>> 
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