[LRUG] It begins!

Wed Apr 18 01:47:05 PDT 2007

Hi All ,
There are stupid little things that my mind just doesn't catch.(and I  
have being writing code for the past 10 years)
One example is the symbol ! I don't understand how it works.
I do understand that string consume memory every time and symbol  
doesn't.
If I'm comparing that to the .Net environment is it like a string  
builder ?

Eran.
On 18 Apr 2007, at 09:39, Jon Lim wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If people would like to let me know what topics they want covered, or
> specific questions they would like answered, then I can coordinate
> with the kind volunteers.
>
> Do you have a desire to understand a particular part or ruby or  
> rails better?
> Is there anything which you would like explained by someone IRL?
> Are you learning ruby and have encountered something which is  
> puzzling?
> Let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Jon
>
> On 18/04/07, Simon Tokumine <simon at japancentre.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As there is around a month to go, perhaps it would be a good idea  
>> to suggest
>> some required reading (suitable for both groups I think).  
>> Something like
>> Chris Pine's excellent tutorials would be perfect:
>>
>> <http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/?Chapter=00>
>>
>> That way the people giving the talk know what kind of base  
>> knowledge to
>> expect?
>>
>>
>> Si
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: chat-bounces at lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces at lrug.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jeff Van Campen
>>> Sent: 17 April 2007 23:24
>>> To: London Ruby Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [LRUG] It begins!
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I didn't get a chance to attend the first meeting, but I
>>> thought I'd jump in here, introduce myself, and answer Suw's  
>>> question.
>>>
>>>> I guess one thing to ascertain is what type of beginners we
>>> have? As I
>>>> see it, there are two types:
>>>>
>>>> - developers who know another language and want to now learn  
>>>> Ruby/RoR
>>>> - people who don't know any languages and are starting with Ruby/ 
>>>> RoR
>>>
>>> I'm the first type of beginner.  I have a background in
>>> PHP/Perl, but have done a few simple sysadmin scripts in Ruby.
>>> I've also been experimenting with RoR when I have the time,
>>> and would like to get up to speed as quickly as possible.  In
>>> the short amount of time I've spent with Rails, I've already
>>> fallen deeply in love.  I have a few upcoming projects that I
>>> would love to use it on.
>>>
>>>> I think they'd need different approaches. For example, the subjects
>>>> you've suggested are already too advanced for me but probably  
>>>> aren't
>>>> for others. I could do with a really basic introduction, but that
>>>> might be too ground-level for others.
>>>
>>> The topics suggested (blocks / procs and routing in rails) are
>>> a bit above my current level, but I would love to see a
>>> presentation on them, as long as the presentation started from
>>> first principles.
>>>
>>> Anyway, that's my 2p.  I'll definitely be trying to make it to
>>> the next meetup.  It sounds like you guys had a great time!
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>>> Suw
>>>>
>>>> On 4/17/07, Murray Steele <murray.steele at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> As mentioned on the other thread, and at the meeting last night,
>>>>> there's quite a bit of support for a beginners session for
>>> Ruby or Rails (or both).
>>>>> I think a beginners session would be quite nice for next months
>>>>> meeting (14th May) to give a little back to everyone
>>> confused by the
>>>>> fairly complex discussions we've had at the last couple of
>>> meetings.
>>>>>
>>>>> What would people be interested in covering in a beginners  
>>>>> session?
>>>>> Obviously a beginner session could cover all manner of stuff, but
>>>>> maybe a more focused session, covering a couple of topics
>>> in detail
>>>>> would be more useful.  We could even split the group into 3 or 4
>>>>> mini groups that cover something different each.  I don't
>>> know what
>>>>> would work best or what people would prefer.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, "beginners", tell the list what you'd be particularly
>>> interested
>>>>> in hearing about and maybe some of us "begunners" can reply with
>>>>> either a bit more info for you to help you straight away,
>>> or offers
>>>>> to lead a mini group in exploring that facet of ruby.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, two things from the meeting last night that could be
>>>>> considered for a beginner session might be:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Blocks, Procs, binding and such-like (from the discussion after
>>>>> Paolo's talk last night, although this discussion might be
>>> going on
>>>>> in the other thread as I type this)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Routing in Rails (sort of from the end of the discussion about
>>>>> REST last night, cover the basics like map.connect, map.resource,
>>>>> but also the weird bits like regexp conditions or /* )
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, don't be shy, let us know what you want (even if that is
>>>>> "everything"), and we'll do our best to cover it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Muz
>>>>>
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