[LRUG] It begins!

Eran Ben Shabbat eranbens at tiscali.co.uk
Mon Apr 30 09:56:08 PDT 2007


I would also like to be mentored if that's possible.
I used to develop software until 3 years ago so I do have the  
background.


Eran.

On 30 Apr 2007, at 17:39, Peter Jones wrote:

> James, it was indeed your idea - are you happy with
> how this is being organised?
>
> So far we have two mentors and three people wishing to
> be mentored. If the numbers remain small we could just
> meet informally in the pub after the next LRUG meeting
> and take things from there...
>
> Peter.
>
> --- James Adam <james.adam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suppose I ought to state that I'm happy to be a
>> mentor, given it was
>> my idea :)
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 4/30/07, Suw Charman <suw.charman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I am totally still interested, yes.
>>>
>>> 1. I would like to be an mentoree. (sounds like a
>> sort of strange
>>> mythical dragon)
>>> 2. I'd be a bit more interested in Rails, but I
>> think I also need some
>>> basic Ruby instruction.
>>>
>>> Suw
>>>
>>> On 4/28/07, Peter Jones <peterbjones at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> In order to assess if there is enough demand to
>>>> justify matching up potential mentors/mentorees
>> at the
>>>> next LRUG meeting please could people indicate
>> if:
>>>>
>>>> 1. They would like to be a mentor, or a mentoree
>>>> 2. They are more focused on Ruby or Rails.
>>>>
>>>> If we do go ahead with this I think it is
>> important
>>>> that that the mentors get as much out of the
>>>> experience as possible. Hopefully it will be
>> possible
>>>> to match them up with people and
>> projects/applications
>>>> that they will find interesting. First we need
>> to find
>>>> out how many people want to participate...
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>> --- Murray Steele <murray.steele at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't seem to me that we've quite reached
>> a
>>>>> consensus on what people
>>>>> actually want from a beginners session.
>>>>>
>>>>> The options so far have been:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Small groups of beginners (new to
>> programming,
>>>>> new to ruby etc...) going
>>>>> over some kind of formal tutorials
>>>>> 2. Small groups of beginners having informal
>> Q&A
>>>>> type sessions
>>>>> 3. People bringing code / ideas to the meeting
>> and
>>>>> getting feedback on these
>>>>> 4. Using the meeting to arrange pairing up
>> beginners
>>>>> with mentors for
>>>>> sessions not part of the LRUG meetings.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that's all the suggestions so far, but
>> I
>>>>> could be wrong.  Given that
>>>>> most of these would require some work on the
>> part of
>>>>> the mentors/group
>>>>> leaders (e.g. preparing a tutorial) or the
>> beginners
>>>>> (e.g. background
>>>>> reading, preparing some code to bring) we
>> should
>>>>> probably firm up which of
>>>>> these options we actually want to do.  We can
>> easily
>>>>> do more than one as
>>>>> they're not all that different; my separation
>> of
>>>>> them was a tad arbitrary.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll want to think about how best to run the
>>>>> meeting too.  Will the
>>>>> beginner groups need tables, a flip chart,
>> projector
>>>>> etc...?  Perhaps a
>>>>> separate room, as there may be another talk or
>>>>> discussion going on that
>>>>> would distract from the knowledge sharing.
>> Note,
>>>>> I've no idea if Skills
>>>>> Matter can accommodate this, I'm just thinking
>> out
>>>>> loud
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Muz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18/04/07, Peter Jones
>> <peterbjones at yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, what I meant was "What would we
>> need to
>>>>> do
>>>>>> to start off a mentoring scheme?" rather
>> than
>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to get people to post questions to the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If people who would like to be mentored
>> brought
>>>>> their
>>>>>> applications/ideas into the next LRUG
>> meeting it
>>>>> would
>>>>>> give potential mentors a chance to see what
>> they
>>>>> were
>>>>>> doing, and talk to the person, to see if
>> they
>>>>> would
>>>>>> like to mentor them. Would that be a good
>> first
>>>>> step?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would be happy to compile a list of
>> mentors and
>>>>>> mentorees(?). We could meet before the main
>>>>> meeting or
>>>>>> (probably better) in the pub afterwards to
>> match
>>>>>> people up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Alex Pounds <alex at alexpounds.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, April 18, 2007 12:34 pm, Peter
>> Jones
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have always decided against posting
>>>>> questions on
>>>>>>>> this list as I don't feel it would be
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>>>>> What would we need to do to start this
>> off?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, to try and hit both points ("What
>> Rails
>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>> would members like to
>>>>>>> cover?" and "Could someone ask some
>> questions to
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list?") I present a
>>>>>>> couple of issues I'm looking at in my
>> current
>>>>> Rails
>>>>>>> project(s).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. I want to let people tag stuff in my
>> app.
>>>>> There
>>>>>>> are at least 3 tagging
>>>>>>> solutions out there: acts_as_taggable,
>>>>>>> acts_as_taggable on steroids, and
>>>>>>> has_many_polymorphs. Which should I use
>> and why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. I want to start letting people upload
>> photos
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the project. What should
>>>>>>> I use and why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure I know the answers to
>> these, and
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> implementation details
>>>>>>> are covered in the docs for the relevant
>> parts,
>>>>> but
>>>>>>> it might be a good
>>>>>>> starting point - especially as both of
>> these
>>>>> things
>>>>>>> are fairly common parts
>>>>>>> of websites and don't get any coverage in
>> the
>>>>>>> beginner's books...
>>>>>>>
>>
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