[LRUG] Ruby Contracting

Vahagn Hayrapetyan vahagnh at gmail.com
Wed Feb 18 17:12:47 PST 2009


>
> More scary to me currently is all the people who are saying they are
> Web 2.0 architects with skills in Rails, AJAX, SSO, Identity
> Management when none of this has really worked in any way shape or
> form (show me a rich Web 2.0 person as there didn't seem any at any of
> the conferences I saw in London).
>

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To recruitment agencies, an experienced ruby contractor is someone who
> frequently upsets jewellers by causing their gemstones to shrink.
>

Priceless!

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Romek <romeks at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> To me, Ruby contractor roles don't really exist. How many companies
> want (or more precisely know that they want) someone who can prototype
> everything they think they need to design in a time when research and
> development is out of fashion. That's how I contract with ruby. And I
> must emphasise WITH ruby. Its never the focal point of my contracting.
> I use it as an extra tool in the box when I need to pull a rabbit out
> of the hat or scare the hell out of an employer.
>
> The trend for not understanding skills is becoming increasingly
> apparent to me. I am in work (in Belgium) and doing the usual way of
> using Ruby as a tool around the standard tools you have at disposal
> (where Ruby is currently best). See my sslplaypen for an example of
> this (http://rubyforge.org/projects/sslplaypen/), presented at
> RailsConfEurope last year. I have tried to get Ruby into ISPs and TLDs
> and found them lacking in understanding of why we use said things.
> Finance companies are more amusing as they don't realise they need
> Ruby until you wave it front of them with content (and then they are
> suddenly wondering what the hell this special thing you have to show
> them is).
>
> And sadly python is currently more fashionable as there is more
> structure there (which really needs the same being applied to ruby
> instead of this horrendous test first, code later ethic kicking around
> here). As, for some weird reason, python has been accepted where ruby
> hasn't. But they have the nightmare of Python 2.4 3000 like we have
> Ruby 1.8.7, 1.9.1, 1.8.6-p111, p-287 (what is the current version of
> Ruby and why is the current Ruby-stable not stable?). Also, when is
> Ruby going to realise that to become popular, it needs to be able to
> show itself on a Windows platform too so that managers get it!
>
> More scary to me currently is all the people who are saying they are
> Web 2.0 architects with skills in Rails, AJAX, SSO, Identity
> Management when none of this has really worked in any way shape or
> form (show me a rich Web 2.0 person as there didn't seem any at any of
> the conferences I saw in London). The recession will weed out any
> company not making profit from this. And with it will go all those
> wonderful wikis, blogs, rss feeds which have no real financial need. I
> never find I need such things, except to ice the cake and make it look
> pretty.
>
> But the UK agencies are looking to get someone with Ruby and Rails
> experience - I don't do Rails so don't fit their perfect mould of
> coders.
> For example last week I was put up for a RoR contract in Oxford (to
> set up PHP/RoR websites) by a recruiter with initials CF and then
> offered to retrain by the same contractor as a mechanical engineer
> (cause I had a degree!). I have since asked said recruiter to go jump
> off a cliff (and remove my CV too!).
>
> To recruitment agencies, an experienced ruby contractor is someone who
> frequently upsets jewellers by causing their gemstones to shrink. The
> agencies tend to look at the people who present first and don't ask
> what experience you have.
>
> Current recruitment agencies buzzwords: Enterprise, SSO, VoIP, CISSP,
> ISO9001
> Current buzzwords for recruiters: Clueless, illiterate, unimaginative,
> space-wasters
>
> Now I shall return to lurking in dull Brussels where the Belgian Ruby
> users seem to communicate via semaphore. At least I am staying in
> employment here.
>
> My sunny regards to the LRUG community,
> Romek
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