[LRUG] Cucumber and RSpec on Rails

Mon Feb 8 14:12:42 PST 2010

Agreed, although it's sometimes still nice to hit the controller steps.
If you get autospec working with cucumber it's very nice to follow something
like:

write up your cucumber feature
watch it fail
write up your rspec controller test
watch it fail
make your rspec test pass
make your cucumber test pass

autospec won't rerun the cucumber tests until the rspec ones are passing,
it's quite clever like that.

I'd say most of my controllers don't have test. The integration testing that
cucumber provides is really nice and done correctly can give you massive
amounts of confidence your code works like you want. I just like to have
some controller tests in there every now and again for things that I think
are a little bit too complex.

Check out the rspec book too from pragprog.com, I quite liked it and has
lots of cucumber in it too.

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> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:42:48 +0000
> Subject: [LRUG] Cucumber and RSpec on Rails
> Hi there!
>
> I'm starting with Cucumber but I'm not sure if/when/how to create specs. In
> the couple of Railscasts I'seen so far, the guy generates rspec_models and
> rspec_controllers, but he doesn't code anything inside them... In another
> screencast I've seen, the guy validates uniqueness of some stuff inside the
> spec, but I guess that's something you could do using a  scenario, right?
> Basically, do I need to write any spec or I can do all the stuff in the
> scenario?
>
> Regards,
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> From: Paul Campbell <paul at rslw.com>
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> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:57:37 +0000
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Cucumber and RSpec on Rails
> Jordi,
>
> cucumber can (and will, if you want) cover 90% of the cases.
>
> Sometimes you might want to drop down to controller testing for edge
> cases or redirects to  external services and things.
>
> Mostly though, my controller specs remain empty.
>
> Model specs are much more frequent though, for testing things like
> arithmetic, maybe validations, auto-assignment, data transformations
> etc.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> —Paul
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> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Jordi Noguera Leon
> <jordinoguera83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi there!
> > I'm starting with Cucumber but I'm not sure if/when/how to create specs.
> In
> > the couple of Railscasts I'seen so far, the guy generates rspec_models
> and
> > rspec_controllers, but he doesn't code anything inside them... In another
> > screencast I've seen, the guy validates uniqueness of some stuff inside
> the
> > spec, but I guess that's something you could do using a  scenario, right?
> > Basically, do I need to write any spec or I can do all the stuff in the
> > scenario?
> > Regards,
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> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:40:35 +0000
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Cucumber and RSpec on Rails
> I'd pretty much agree with this - my controller specs these days are pretty
> much for covering access privileges, security edge cases and the like. I
> also spec out routing rules quite frequently. Everything else goes in
> Cucumber stories.
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> Steve
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> On Monday, February 08, 2010, at 07:57PM, "Paul Campbell" <paul at rslw.com>
> wrote:
> >Jordi,
> >
> >cucumber can (and will, if you want) cover 90% of the cases.
> >
> >Sometimes you might want to drop down to controller testing for edge
> >cases or redirects to  external services and things.
> >
> >Mostly though, my controller specs remain empty.
> >
> >Model specs are much more frequent though, for testing things like
> >arithmetic, maybe validations, auto-assignment, data transformations
> >etc.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >
> >—Paul
> >
> >On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Jordi Noguera Leon
> ><jordinoguera83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi there!
> >> I'm starting with Cucumber but I'm not sure if/when/how to create specs.
> In
> >> the couple of Railscasts I'seen so far, the guy generates rspec_models
> and
> >> rspec_controllers, but he doesn't code anything inside them... In
> another
> >> screencast I've seen, the guy validates uniqueness of some stuff inside
> the
> >> spec, but I guess that's something you could do using a  scenario,
> right?
> >> Basically, do I need to write any spec or I can do all the stuff in the
> >> scenario?
> >> Regards,
> >> Jordi
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