[LRUG] For the agenda of the June meeting: a humble offering for your consideration

[Murray Steele]

Ok folks, thanks for the vote of confidence (now I'll actually have to
prepare for a meeting... bah!).

Expect more details on the June meeting (and registration links etc...)
soon.

Muz

On 19 May 2010 19:20, Levent Ali <lebreeze at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea
>
>
> On 19 May 2010, at 13:02, jds <jds340 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> go for it
>
> On 19 May 2010 08:11, Tim Benest < <thb at taskforce.co.uk>
> thb at taskforce.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> ++1
>>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Jordi Noguera Leon
>> < <jordinoguera83 at gmail.com>jordinoguera83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Good stuff, go for it!
>> >
>> > On 19 May 2010 05:07, Matthew Rudy Jacobs <<matthewrudyjacobs at gmail.com>
>> matthewrudyjacobs at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sounds really interesting.
>> >> If I could be there, I'd vote for it.
>> >>
>> >> On 19 May 2010 04:57, Murray Steele < <murray.steele at gmail.com>
>> murray.steele at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>> Just to remind you that the next meeting will be on Monday 14th June.
>> >>>  I'm just starting to sort out talks for it, but I wanted to offer up
>> a talk
>> >>> that I'd like to give.  The talk is called "My First Ruby" and in it I
>> will
>> >>> show off the first ruby script I ever wrote.
>> >>> I think you might enjoy this because:
>> >>> 1. It's a mailing list with a web front-end.  The web stuff is
>> pre-rails
>> >>> and I think it's interesting in terms of "look how far we've come".
>> >>>  Seriously, if you've never done web development without a
>> higher-level
>> >>> framework like rails you'll be amazed.  (For anyone who's heard of it,
>> it
>> >>> uses NARF).
>> >>> 2. I can pretty much guarantee* that my first ruby code is worse than
>> >>> your first ruby code.  So for any newbies in the room, it should come
>> as
>> >>> welcome relief that even apparent old-hands like myself have written
>> >>> terrible code (and it truly is terrible code), made terrible design
>> >>> decisions, and done both without the safety net of TDD.  Of course,
>> >>> hopefully in the talk I'll point out why, if writing this again, I
>> would use
>> >>> TDD.  At the end I hope this talk will make people feel less
>> embarrassed
>> >>> about showing off code of their own at future events; I'll be setting
>> a
>> >>> base-level of awfulness.
>> >>> 3. This bit of software was written in a weekend and has been in
>> >>> "production" for  7 years 11 months (according to the date I filled in
>> for
>> >>> "when I first started using Ruby" on my Working With Rails profile)
>> and it's
>> >>> been remarkably stable and unchanged for those 7 years.  I've no real
>> >>> evidence for this, but it's a scientific fact that it's the longest
>> running
>> >>> piece of ruby software in the world... wouldn't you like to see inside
>> it?
>> >>> So, can I give it?
>> >>> Muz
>> >>>
>> >>> * not a guarantee**
>> >>> ** it is a bit
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