[LRUG] Show LRUG: My weekend project

Murray Steele murray.steele at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 06:55:24 PST 2011


Before taking all this "Boo! Facebook login!" feedback too seriously it's
worth working out who your target audience for this is.  I suspect that
they might not have as much concern about using facebook login as we do.
 The flipside being that they are hugely unlikely to want to use github or
stackoverflow to login.  Even if you can add 20 different auth providers,
doesn't mean you should.

On 21 November 2011 14:15, Tom Blomfield <tom at gocardless.com> wrote:

> Interesting discussion.
>
> I used the new Omniauth (v1.0) + Devise (1.5.0) for login, so actually
> it's really very simple to allow direct signup (or allow other forms of
> auth, like Google, Twitter, Stackoverflow etc).
>
> I made the choice to disable (or at least hide) direct signup because I
> personally don't like having to create lots of separate accounts for sites
> I use only very occassionally. Especially if I'm concerned about how they
> to store my password. But I appreciate this preference may not be shared by
> others.
>
> But I absolutely agree that I should really show more information before
> sign-in is required. Also, an "about-us" page is coming soon! The project
> was only started at about 2pm on Saturday, and pushed to production at
> around 11 last night.
>
> --
> Tom Blomfield
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>
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>
> On Monday, 21 November 2011 at 14:07, Alexander Bienz wrote:
>
> Personally I feel the same way, but for this site I thought what the heck
> and signed in anyway.
>
> It told me that Facebook doesn't track anything from the site, so
> essentially it does just use Facebook for authentication, which meant I
> didn't have to create a new login for a site that I may not use very often.
>
> I actually really appreciated the simplicity of the login in this case,
> I'm glad I didn't have to create a new login for this site, as I probably
> wouldn't have bothered.
>
> Creating login functionality is a fair amount of overhead in a project, if
> you can simply overcome it with the use of an alternative system then why
> waste time on making it yourself.
>
> I can see that this is going to be more common place in the future, where
> sites would offer a couple of options, but all will be with external
> networks, Googe, Facebook, Linkedin.
>
> It's just our perceptions that should change.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick <ronny at ager-wick.com>wrote:
>
> **
> Second that - direct site login should be default IMHO, having various
> social network logins as alternatives.
> I like the idea, though!
> Look forward to check it out once you have normal site login and/or Google
> login.
> There are lots of people who never have used Facebook, as well as a large
> number of people leaving Facebook every month, so I'm quite surprised to
> see it as the only form of login...
> Ronny.
>
>
> Michael Pavling wrote:
>
> On 21 November 2011 13:10, Tom Blomfield <tom at gocardless.com> <tom at gocardless.com> wrote:
>
>
> What account do you prefer to use? Twitter, Github, Google? Or just sign-in
> to the site directly?
>
>
> Personally - I prefer to log in to the site directly, but if pushed,
> I'll use my Google account (for instance with Stackoverflow).
>
> However, I would really prefer to see some more of the detail of what
> I get when I register/log in. If I can't see an example of the menus,
> or a précis of the event details without logging in, I'm not sure why
> I want to register - even an "about MealMogul" page would help.
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