[LRUG] Credit card processing in the UK

Tom Blomfield tom at gocardless.com
Tue Aug 7 05:52:57 PDT 2012


The biggest hurdle will be finding a merchant acquirer who will allow you
to programmatically generate merchant accounts and validate
creditworthiness/fraud after the fact.

Regulation is expensive & time-consuming, but fairly straightforward.

Replicating the technology / API is relatively simple.



On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Sidu Ponnappa <ckponnappa at gmail.com> wrote:

> > securely tokenise and store credit card details
> Technology aside, you will also have to deal with regulatory issues
> (which I suspect is the *really* hard part) :)
>
> Best,
> Sidu.
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>
> On 7 August 2012 18:13, Stevie Graham <stevie at twilio.com> wrote:
> > You may as well just build a Stripe competitor at that point as you will
> > have to securely tokenise and store credit card details according to
> > PCI-DSS. If you want to do that, there are several customers on this
> thread
> > I'm sure, including me.
> >
> > S
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Paul Campbell <paul at rslw.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A really cool hackday project would be to take an existing API and
> >> re-implement it to use the Stripe API… once Stripe comes along, you
> >> could just cut the cord!
> >>
> >> —P
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Sidu Ponnappa <ckponnappa at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> I’d strongly advise against paypal.
> >> > I second that. We launched payments for RubyMonk last week only to
> >> > have Paypal lock our account a handful of subscriptions in. We're
> >> > still trying to resolve the issue (they needed more documentation for
> >> > account verification), but they've taken three days for the first set
> >> > of documents and have come back asking for more, so that's going to be
> >> > another three days.
> >> >
> >> > Being based out of India, we have little choice but to go with PayPal.
> >> > We're incorporating a subsidiary in the US simply to get access to a
> >> > better payments processor like Braintree or Stripe.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Sidu.
> >> > http://c42.in
> >> > http://sidu.in
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 7 August 2012 16:48, Louis Goff-Beardsley <louisror at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I’d strongly advise against paypal. I had serious issues caused by
> them
> >> >> limiting my merchant account without warning a few years back.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Best, Louis
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> >> >> On Behalf Of Frederick Cheung
> >> >> Sent: 07 August 2012 09:16
> >> >> To: London Ruby Users Group
> >> >> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Credit card processing in the UK
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7 Aug 2012, at 09:09, J. Pablo Fernández <pupeno at pupeno.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello rubists!
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > My startup is getting closer to the point when we start charging.
> >> >> > Yay! So... Any recommendation on a merchant, or however you'd call
> such a
> >> >> > provider, that would store the CC number for me and allow me to
> place a
> >> >> > charge of variable amounts every month? Yeah, I know, the
> trickiest of the
> >> >> > cases. The most promising companies offering these types of
> services that I
> >> >> > found all fail at the geographic level: they are US-centric and
> can't
> >> >> > operate in the UK.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> worldpay do offer this service in the uk. You can set up what they
> call
> >> >> a futurepay recurring payment. You can either do a regular payment
> which
> >> >> occurs at fixed intervals (but with a varying amount) or adhoc
> intervals but
> >> >> with a limit (that the user enters when they give the card details to
> >> >> worldpay) both on the total amount chargeable per time period and
> the max
> >> >> frequency of payments. I did an integration with the latter a few
> years back
> >> >> and it was relatively straightforward (although we never launched,
> for a
> >> >> bunch of other reasons). Setting up a merchant account with worldpay
> was a
> >> >> bit of a pain - took forever and they wanted all sorts of crazy info
> to
> >> >> verify us (did that bit again quite recently)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I believe paypal also have a recurring payments thing, but I finds
> >> >> paypals set of products to be utterly confusing.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Fred
> >> >>
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