[LRUG] Switching from solo contractor to being a development company

Thu Feb 16 08:22:20 PST 2012

Yeah you weren't lying when you said it was brief! but at least you
apologised.

On 16 February 2012 16:19, Sam Livingston-Gray <geeksam at gmail.com> wrote:

> (Sorry for fat-fingered empty reply; not fully awake yet.)
>
> The instigator of the Ruby Rogues podcast has recently started another one
> called Ruby Freelancers. 2-3 episodes so far; might be of interest. I think
> they're all solo, but some of them regularly use subcontractors (which
> sounds like a bridge strategy to get where the OP wants to go).
>
> --
> (Sent from phone; please excuse brevity.)
>
> On Feb 16, 2012, at 6:05 AM, luke saunders <luke.saunders at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> That's good advice Nic.
>
> I have invested £7.41 into my new venture and bought the book. I have some
> meetings coming up over the next month with people who are possibly
> interested in working with me in May, so I will try out the 'in transition
> from solo to team' approach and see how it goes.
>
> Can I ask though, do you (and others on the list) actively generate leads
> and try to sell, or do clients always find your company through your
> site/Twitter etc and approach you first?
>
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM, nicolas alpi <nicolas.alpi at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey Luke, it's funny because I did the transition few month ago.
>>
>> I was (am) a solo developer, and my wife is a project manager. We decided
>> to combine our skills to take more project on board, so we create we also
>> do cookies limited.
>>
>> Basically I have my client, and she manages the project, invoice,
>> requirements and everything, but I keep the daily communication with my
>> clients. And when we take external devs for other projects, she manages
>> both side (client and devs), and just keep me in the loop to make sure that
>> everyone is happy.
>>
>> I have to say the first 3 month of working with someone else (specially
>> your wife!) are insane, and you have to find the right balance for
>> everyone. But now, I would never go back ever. This a really good way of
>> expending a little (we think).
>>
>> We'll be looking for full time people after the summer, but for the
>> moment we are booked up to June and pretty happy with the lifestyle that it
>> gave us.
>>
>> The main problems I found when doing the transition was:
>>
>> 1. How to present/market yourself. You're not a freelance anymore, and
>> you have to present yourself as someone founder of company X solving a
>> problem Y
>>
>> 2. Refining your target market. Obviously your market will change when
>> moving from solo to team (mainly because the price goes up).
>>
>> The way I did the transition is to present the company as it is (Husband
>> and Wife + freelancer friends). But I make it clear that we are still in
>> transition from solo to team, so if they need someone to join their team,
>> or just need 1 dev, it's still possible.
>>
>> No problems with this tactics so far.
>>
>> If I can, I would recommend reading "Duct tape marketing", even if the
>> title sound a bit cheesy, it's a really good book that will help your
>> during this transition phase I think.
>>
>> Best of luck with your new venture, their are some exciting times ahead :)
>>
>> Nic
>> --
>> Nicolas Alpi, web developer, cookies eater
>> http://www.wealsodocookies.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Jonathon Horsman <
>> jonathon at arctickiwi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Luke
>>>
>>> I'm in a similar situation where I work on several short to medium term
>>> projects for several clients, operating under a company.
>>>
>>> I seem to be getting more and more work now but am a bit scared to take
>>> on staff in case all the work dries up suddenly. Also the prospect of
>>> employing someone seems a bit daunting.
>>>
>>> This might be a bit tangental to what you were asking about, but
>>> partnering with other developer(s) on an informal basis seems very
>>> appealing, if there could be easy resource sharing for overflow work.
>>>
>>> Ideally working in a shared office space with a few freelance developer
>>> types with potentially design resource onsite and a shared meeting space.
>>> This would facilitate collaboration on bigger shared projects and also
>>> solve the problem of holiday cover and pitching to clients concerned with
>>> lack of coverage.
>>>
>>> Eventually this could evolve into a formal arrangement or having
>>> everyone operating under an umbrella company.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 February 2012 12:29, luke saunders <luke.saunders at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> For several years now I've been a contract developer, usually working
>>>> for a single client at any one time and often for a couple of years at
>>>> a time. Sometimes I get projects which are short term to fill some
>>>> specific requirement, like now I'm redeveloping a site, which will be
>>>> done by May. I think I'm a pretty typical contract developer.
>>>>
>>>> At some point I would quite like to run a development company, which
>>>> might handle several projects at a time, employ other developers etc.
>>>> But it's not clear how to best approach making the leap, when I am
>>>> employed by clients they usually want to employ me and only me, if
>>>> they need other developers or a designer they'll find them themselves.
>>>> So probably the companies I have relations with now would not be my
>>>> target market then.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone made the jump from solo contractor to development company?
>>>> And if so do you have any advice on how to achieve this? How do
>>>> clients find you and do you have a lead gen / sales process?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Luke.
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>>>
>>>
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