[LRUG] I Love Ruby

Mark Burns markthedeveloper at gmail.com
Mon Jul 15 23:47:00 PDT 2013


If it's any consolation, then by speaking up, we are showing a voice of
dissent, that this is not the default, nor an acceptable viewpoint.


On 16 July 2013 07:42, Thayer Prime <thayer at team-prime.com> wrote:

> Eurgh, I genuinely feel quite sick from that. I know which company
> I'll be ensuring to warn devs off when they come asking where to work.
> FFS.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Thayer Prime <thayer at team-prime.com>
> wrote:
> > Yep, sorry - I find that hugely offensive, and one of the things that
> > stopped me being the (token?) female dev.
> >
> > Grim.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Sam Livingston-Gray <geeksam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Quite. In a nutshell, to treat any human being as though they were a
> >> facility or form of compensation instead of having agency is so deeply
> and
> >> fundamentally disrespectful that the word "disrespectful" seems
> inadequate
> >> to the task, causing one to reach for, e.g., "misogyny" instead.
> >>
> >> Compared to that, the fact that I don't especially like beer and can't
> stand
> >> it when people misspell "espresso" (see also
> >> twitter.com/yaykyle/status/347013342159847424) seem like positively
> trivial
> >> complaints.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from a device with a virtual keyboard. Please excuse terseness,
> >> top-posting, hilarity introduced by autocorrect.
> >>
> >> On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Mark Burns <markthedeveloper at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I stayed out of the gender conversation last time, but I'm going to
> stick my
> >> neck out, and without meaning to speak on behalf of women, I'm just
> going to
> >> say that it is exactly this kind of thing that makes the community
> >> unwelcoming to women.
> >> I can't count how many ways it is offensive to list female developers
> as a
> >> number on a list of attractive features of a company.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16 July 2013 01:04, Richard Green <richard at evvnt.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well it's certainly been an interesting week signing up to the Ruby
> Users
> >>> Group and I've learn quite a few things...
> >>>
> >>> 1. Don't double email (foolish)
> >>>
> >>> 2. [JOB] posts require title filters.
> >>> I'm undecided as whether this is to prevent the post going to
> developers
> >>> or to direct the post to recruitment agencies.
> >>>
> >>> Well the scores on the doors
> >>>
> >>> Developers 0 - 8 Recruiters
> >>>
> >>> I think the recruiters are winning...
> >>>
> >>> 3. Ruby developers have quality banter and like to squish themselves
> in to
> >>> tiny pubs, drink lots of beer and chat projects and code. More of
> point 3
> >>> required.
> >>>
> >>> So in the art of snaring a ruby developer in the next 6 weeks, what
> temps
> >>> these rare creatures out of their natural habit to venture to pastures
> >>> new...
> >>>
> >>> Let me know which of the following would tempt you from you desk...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1. Keg of beer and beer tap fitted to your development desk?
> >>>
> >>> 2. The recruitment fee as your welcome gift?
> >>>
> >>> 3. 4 day week?
> >>>
> >>> 4. Building your own team of 4 from scratch
> >>>
> >>> 5. Shares and equity (so dull)
> >>>
> >>> 6. Commission from online sales.
> >>>
> >>> 7. An endless jar of Cadbury chocolate eclairs...
> >>>
> >>> 8. 4X female french, italian and spanish junior / front and backend
> >>> developers
> >>>
> >>> 9. Your own Expresso coffee machine with frothy milk maker...
> >>>
> >>> 10. 30 days paid holiday if taken in December and August.
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking for your best number or a combination of up to 3...
> >>>
> >>> Richard Green
> >>> evvnt.com
> >>>
> >>> CONFESSION:: I have yet to read the rules on posting, I'm hoping humour
> >>> makes it through the filter.
> >>> 07787 527499
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> >
> > --
> > Thayer Prime
> > --------------------
> > CEO & Founder
> > Team Prime Ltd
> > http://www.team-prime.com
> >
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/thayerprime
> > http://www.thayerprime.com
> > @Thayer
>
>
>
> --
> Thayer Prime
> --------------------
> CEO & Founder
> Team Prime Ltd
> http://www.team-prime.com
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/thayerprime
> http://www.thayerprime.com
> @Thayer
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