[LRUG] Coaches for RG London workshop - 4-5 October

[Rachel Graves]

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, George Spencer <george at rentify.com> wrote:

> No. People make concessions when they brand things, and it's impossible to
> please everyone. Cf. the founders of the business & your view on girls.
> E.g. I find it hilarious and a bit sad that the men's prostate cancer
> charity has to be called SLEDGEHAMMER to give it some manliness, and that
> the adverts are all oriented around FOOTBALL and LADS and BETTING. But I
> also know that a lot of men don't feel that way.
>

When you said "Females on Rails" not only did you reduce Women to a sex of
an undefined species, but you also intentionally or unintentionally made a
sexual joke. It was really offensive to me.



> I took a straw poll of the females in my office. They don't like "women"
> and suggested that some people also have a problem with the class
> connotations of "ladies". Sounds like it's a hard thing to get right, and
> that the intention of the term is absolutely paramount.
>

Why are you calling them females? What didn't they like about Women?
Here's an article I just found on why not to use girls, or females.

http://canbebitter.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/i-am-woman-so-dont-call-me-a-female/


>
> In this very specific instance, whilst I think you're 100% right to voice
> your opinion, I'm also (doubtless as someone who has never experienced an
> ounce of misogyny) sensitive to the fact that branding something in a
> memorable way is hard, and we sometimes opt for a catchy name at the
> expense of being inoffensive.
>

By the way, the branding is obvious, it's for Women of all ages, they
explain the spice girls relation and that's when it stops. The rest of that
pages uses Women. My complaint earlier was at the use of girls outside of
the brand. I only meant to educate, not cause an uproar.

I think these emails are being moderated, hopefully they'll make it to the
list.

>  On Thursday, 19 September 2013 at 12:51, Rachel Graves wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM, George Spencer <george at rentify.com>wrote:
>
> Females on Rails®
>
>
> So are you now trolling me, and degrading Women to just their sex? Is
> there a sexy pun?
>
>
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