[LRUG] [JOBS] Extreme Programming Opportunities

Stephen Best bestie at gmail.com
Fri Jan 10 10:15:56 PST 2014


Despite mainstream organisations gratuitous spewing of buzzwords, we should
remember that underneath the layers of BS you'll often find real tools and
techniques that in some cases are vital to our craft.

Dismiss XP at your peril.

Bestie.

Chief agile dramatist.

On 10 January 2014 17:18, Sleepyfox <sleepyfox at gmail.com> wrote:

> Words have emotional attachments for people. I personally have to deal
> almost every week with prospects, colleagues or clients who conflate
> dictionary definitions of the word 'agile' with Agile methodologies, Agile
> tools or techniques and Agile principles and values, needless to say this
> is frequently a cause of confusion.
>
> As a consultant in the IT profession I do my best wherever I can to inform
> and educate, so whilst I do see some people's awareness of Agile (and
> especially XP being close to my heart) being reduced to a buzzword, I take
> every opportunity that I can to open their eyes to what a real difference
> these values and principles have given us with modern development
> practices, tools and systems.
>
> I personally feel that throwing the baby out with the bathwater isn't
> productive.
>
> If people don't want to use Agile/XP/Scrum/FDD/whatever, that's fine by
> me, it's not a silver bullet. If you get on just fine without TDD, pairing,
> CI etc. then fair enough.
>
> Anthony's original post was aimed at people who do enjoy these things - a
> sentiment that I share.
>
> To further the discussion, I've run a Code Dojo at 7digital and they seem
> pretty switched on about these things, same for Unruly Media and Badoo,
> though I don't know whether either of these are currently recruiting.
>
> All the best,
>
> Fox
> --
>
>
>
> On 10 January 2014 16:54, Najaf Ali <ali at happybearsoftware.com> wrote:
>
>> Agile is a member of the set buzzwords, so technically just fine without
>> either.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Sleepyfox <sleepyfox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Najaf: just fine without Agile or just fine without buzzwords?
>>>
>>> Fox
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 January 2014 16:31, Najaf Ali <ali at happybearsoftware.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *> Thanks Anthony, that's a great idea. I've also struggled with
>>>> finding employers (in the past) or clients (now that I'm running > my own
>>>> business) that even have agile.clue > 0 (as opposed to say, SyntaxError:
>>>> Unexpected identifier)*
>>>>
>>>> As someone who's experienced more than his fair share of the church of
>>>> Agile and other forms of buzzword-driven-development, please: send them my
>>>> way! My clients and I get on just fine without it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Sleepyfox <sleepyfox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Anthony, that's a great idea. I've also struggled with finding
>>>>> employers (in the past) or clients (now that I'm running my own business)
>>>>> that even have agile.clue > 0 (as opposed to say, SyntaxError:
>>>>> Unexpected identifier)
>>>>>
>>>>> Most are rather like this guy:
>>>>> https://twitter.com/sleepyfox/statuses/416556441885896704
>>>>>
>>>>> Fox
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10 January 2014 11:52, Anthony Green <
>>>>> anthony.charles.green at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Frustrated at being unable to find roles with organisations that
>>>>>> embrace XP practices: pairing, TDD, GOOS, CI etc I've created a Twitter
>>>>>> account for those in the same boat: @XPJobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's low posting as you can imagine but if people know of genuine
>>>>>> opportunities that fore fill that explicit criteria and you tweet them
>>>>>> would you mind CC'ing that account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime here's James Courtois and Hugo Corbucci on the Joys
>>>>>> and Sorrows of Metaprogramming:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://vimeo.com/83768983
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony Green
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/xpjobs
>>>>>> Job announcements for companies that practice eXtreme Programming
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