[LRUG] Juniors

Thayer Prime thayer at team-prime.com
Wed May 21 07:09:23 PDT 2014


Sure, it is definitely not for the faint hearted taking on a junior -
you need a strong support element to the team, and the time required.
But still, I do wish we were better as an industry at training our
own.

Hard though, as my view is a bit skewed:, all the builds we do are
often/mostly senior working on cutting edge stuff and against tight
deadlines, so there's not much room for error or slow down. Maybe out
there in the general dev industry things are better for those starting
out.

I was a really lucky junior dev in the first dotcom wave (zero exp,
hired into an amazing team and learned on the job), and I never forget
the kindness of those who trained me (and got me absolutely hammered).

Ah, those were the days.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Evgeny Shadchnev
<evgeny.shadchnev at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Thayer,
>
> Ironically, bringing a junior developer up to speed often takes time of
> someone more experienced, which really is a problem given that most
> companies are short of experienced devs. So they aren't ready to take a
> short-term hit of training up a junior developer until they're big.
>
> Another problem is the perception: many companies that haven't worked with
> good juniors assume that junior devs aren't worth interviewing. When we
> started Makers Academy, our biggest problem was not that our grads weren't
> passing the interviews (they were) but that it was hard to arrange the
> interview in the first place. Often once a company hires one good junior,
> they are much more predisposed towards hiring more juniors.
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Thayer Prime <thayer at team-prime.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi LRUG
>>
>> I often come across juniors in my work (few a month), and almost none
>> of my clients ever want junior ruby developers, I get like 1-2 junior
>> roles in a team once or twice a year, sadly. And even then they're
>> often "juniors" that must have 2 years exp and a PHD and and and ;-)
>>
>> If any of you ever do want juniors (and I mean 0-1 years experience
>> types), drop me a line. If I have any at the time you're welcome to
>> them free of charge as I'd really like to help more juniors get into
>> our industry.
>>
>> Seems strange that there's so much talk about skills shortages and yet
>> not many companies seem prepared to train their own. *shrug*
>>
>> Thayer
>>
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