[LRUG] Juniors

[Louis Goff-Beardsley]

As soon as you hit 12 months decent experience you can go out and get 
permanent onsite job offers in London without much trouble. However, 
prior to that its difficult to get a job. There are a lot of junior 
developers floating about in Limbo.

I can't speak for everyone but my experience is that while the boot 
camps provide an excellent introduction to web development, the 
developers they produce are often not immediately employable.

My advice to juniors who are trying to get their first foot on the first 
rung on the ladder has always been get involved in some open source 
projects, go code things for friends/family & local charities and 
basically do anything to get experience. If that involves spending 
Saturdays and Sundays working with a senior ruby developer hacking 
together an MVP for an idea they've had, I personally would do it as 
once you're on the Ladder, you're looking at...

Year 1: £25k
Year 2: £35k
Year 3: £50k - £400 /day
Year 4: £60-70k - £500 /day

I'm passing no moral judgement on whats right or wrong, I'm just talking 
about how it works out practically.


On 21/05/2014 15:27, Sam Livingston-Gray wrote:
> Maybe things are different across the pond where you actually have a 
> reasonable set of public services, but over here in the States, unpaid 
> internships strike me as a way of limiting opportunities to those who 
> already have the means to go without income for an extended period. I 
> understand the reasoning behind them from an employer's perspective, 
> and while I doubt that anyone sets out with the goal of perpetuating 
> economic inequality, that certainly seems to be an unavoidable outcome 
> of the arrangement.
>
> ...I've been trying to come up with a way to conclude this that isn't 
> quite so depressing, but... I got nothin'. :/
>
> --
> (Sent from phone. Please excuse: brevity, top posting, hilarious 
> autocorrections.)
>
> On May 21, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Louis Goff-Beardsley <louisror at gmail.com 
> <mailto:louisror at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> I've got a few teams/lone developers which take Juniors on as unpaid 
>> interns. Great for if you're in 0-6 months and in need of commercial 
>> experience to make you employable. Usually offering flexible working 
>> hours, remote working and on occasion some minor equity in super 
>> early stage stuff. Most importantly real commercial experience 
>> working with more senior developers. Hit me up if anyone is interested.
>>
>> This is a free service I offer out of the kindness of my heart.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best, Louis.*
>>
>> *
>>
>> -*
>> Louis Goff-Beardsley*
>>
>> *Ultra-specialised Independent Ruby Recruitment*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley
>>
>> /"I just can’t stop thinking about Ruby on Rails"/
>>
>> *Mobile:*07449 324 851 *BBS:* 0118 327 1821
>>
>> *_Skype/Googletalk_*: LouisGB1 - 
>> LouisRoR at gmail.com<mailto:LouisRoR at gmail.com>
>>
>> @LouisRoR<https://twitter.com/LouisRoR>
>>
>> irc.freenode.org <http://irc.freenode.org> - LouisRoR - #Ruby #LRUG 
>> #NWRUG #Pokemonchat
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Chat mailing list
>> Chat at lists.lrug.org <mailto:Chat at lists.lrug.org>
>> http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org

-- 

Best, Louis.*

*

-*
Louis Goff-Beardsley*

*Ultra-specialised Independent Ruby Recruitment*
https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley

/"I just can’t stop thinking about Ruby on Rails"/

*Mobile:*07449 324 851 *BBS:* 0118 327 1821

*_Skype/Googletalk_*: LouisRoR at gmail.com<mailto:LouisRoR at gmail.com>

@LouisRoR<https://twitter.com/LouisRoR>

irc.freenode.org - LouisRoR - #Ruby #LRUG #NWRUG #Pokemonchat

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.lrug.org/pipermail/chat-lrug.org/attachments/20140521/0af4e360/attachment-0003.html>