[LRUG] DHH, Rails, and London

[jds]

Hi James

I've added my name to the list and put up a PR.

It's sad that DHH has caught the anti-empathy mind virus going round the
rich techies in America. Maybe someone should remind him that he is an
immigrant into America and ICE (aka, the Gestapo) could come knocking at
any moment.

We have to take a stand against the rising tide of fascism because "First
they came for... etc"

I'm moving away from Rails to Elixir/Phoenix anyway. Which is an
interesting journey.

Thanks

John Small


On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 13:14, Todd Neale via Chat <chat at lists.lrug.org>
wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> I am certainly one that sits and believes that one shouldn’t mix code and
> politics. I am disappointed that DHH feels it is necessary to comment on
> political issues that he seemingly does not understand fully.
>
> Do you not find it all a bit ironic that he is a foreigner himself living
> abroad in the US? Do you think he considers himself a migrant degrading the
> culture of the city he has chosen to call home?
>
> Personally I believe in the Ruby community to be a diverse community and
> we will not be deterred or divided by divisive politics and hate speech.
> Therefore I think it it’s important for the community to communicate with
> DHH that expressing such views as he his is not welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Todd
>
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2025 at 10:52, James Smith via Chat <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I recently read DHH’s take on London, how it’s “no longer British” and
>> his support for Tommy Robinson and the far right, and quite frankly it made
>> me sick, having been a Rails dev since 1.2, and a Brit since 1976.
>>
>> If it did the same for you, you might want to co-sign this open letter
>> I’ve started calling for the Rails Core team to cut ties with him and
>> remove his influence: https://github.com/Plan-Vert/open-letter.
>>
>> If this doesn't bother you, or you just don’t want to mix politics and
>> code, then fine, please just delete this email and move on. Rest assured
>> I’ve had all the standard abuse already, there’s no need to repeat it.
>>
>> Yes, forking Rails it would be almost impossible. Yes, the attempt will
>> probably fail, I knew that on day one. But I had to try something, I love
>> this language, framework and place too much to let them be tarnished like
>> this.
>>
>> cheers,
>> James Smith
>>
>> PS I did check with the organisers before posting “political” content to
>> the list.
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