[LRUG] DHH, Rails, and London

Yevhenii Kurtov yevhenii.kurtov at dyad.net
Thu Sep 25 08:29:21 PDT 2025


Thanks Alex!

This totally makes sense.

On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 16:16, Alex via Chat <chat at lists.lrug.org> wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> Thanks for organising this, and for approving my PR to add myself to the
> list.
>
> I've talked at LRUG
> <https://lrug.org/meetings/2024/#july-2024-meeting--that-smells-like-time>
> before about the importance of considering the effects that our words have
> on those around us; I'm grateful to you for speaking up about this in a way
> that encourages others to do the same. I believe in MINASWAN, and for me
> it's important that being *nice* doesn't get mistaken for being *polite*.
> It may be uncomfortable, but the right thing to do when someone is making
> people feel unwelcome or unsafe is to make it clear that *that* behaviour
> is what's not welcome.
>
> Warm regards,
> fell
>
> On Thu, 25 Sept 2025 at 10:52, James Smith via Chat <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I recently read DHH’s take on London, how it’s “no longer British” and
>> his support for Tommy Robinson and the far right, and quite frankly it made
>> me sick, having been a Rails dev since 1.2, and a Brit since 1976.
>>
>> If it did the same for you, you might want to co-sign this open letter
>> I’ve started calling for the Rails Core team to cut ties with him and
>> remove his influence: https://github.com/Plan-Vert/open-letter.
>>
>> If this doesn't bother you, or you just don’t want to mix politics and
>> code, then fine, please just delete this email and move on. Rest assured
>> I’ve had all the standard abuse already, there’s no need to repeat it.
>>
>> Yes, forking Rails it would be almost impossible. Yes, the attempt will
>> probably fail, I knew that on day one. But I had to try something, I love
>> this language, framework and place too much to let them be tarnished like
>> this.
>>
>> cheers,
>> James Smith
>>
>> PS I did check with the organisers before posting “political” content to
>> the list.
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