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color:#1F497D'>Oops I think I may have got *<b>J</b>* into trouble!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Sorry guys for any misunderstood meaning my email may have
caused.. I’m an ugly bugger if it makes you feel any better (<<a
href="http://clipmon32.sourceforge.net">http://clipmon32.sourceforge.net</a>>);
Ha! :p<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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chat-bounces@lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces@lrug.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>soledad
penadés | sole<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 October 2006 14:28<br>
<b>To:</b> London Ruby Users Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [LRUG] Stealth Group!?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>As a woman, developer and
ruby-developer in progress I also have to agree with Paul :-)<br>
<br>
Working in the IT industry is sometimes complicated enough for us,and when I
saw the pizza girls at POR I got a bit like "oh no...". <br>
It doesn't encourage more women to join IT related things, since it looks like
a desperated-for-women nerds meeting.<br>
<br>
Anyway, we know he was joking :D<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 10/27/06, <b>Paul Hammond</b> <<a
href="mailto:mail@paranoidfish.org">mail@paranoidfish.org</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>> On 10/27/06, Tom Medhurst <<a
href="mailto:Tom.Medhurst@exony.com">Tom.Medhurst@exony.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> May I suggest getting some photos of some really hunky guys and girls<br>
>> otherwise they'll find something else to dig us about! :p <br>
><br>
> Quick! Someone post this on teh LRUG homepage!!<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pizzaonrails/243555779/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/pizzaonrails/243555779/</a><br>
><br>
<br>
I know you're joking, but please don't. <br>
<br>
I'm really disappointed in that photoset and how Pizza on Rails are<br>
choosing to market themselves. There are lots of people working<br>
really hard to ensure that women are equals in our industry (eg: the<br>
recent discussion sparked by <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/15/">http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/09/15/</a><br>
the-future-of-white-boy-clubs/). A photoset like that does a huge<br>
amount of damage to that work, particularly when it doesn't actually <br>
reflect what happened at the event, and it makes the London Ruby<br>
scene look pretty poor by association.<br>
<br>
I don't go to these events to gawp at (supposedly) attractive women,<br>
I go to meet interesting people and chat about technology and our <br>
industry. If pizza on rail wants to be about the former, then I'm<br>
not interested in attending.<br>
<br>
I hope that LRUG doesn't follow their example, particularly when it's<br>
so unnecessary. We don't need the glamour, there's already too much <br>
exciting stuff happening around here,<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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