I think it sounds really interesting. I'd certainly want to attend, although I don't know if I'd be up to participating!<div><br> </div><div>You'd have to be really careful about the chosen problem though, to ensure it was fair to all the chosen frameworks. e.g. a company website + intranet + wiki with signup, email password recovery and roles-based access control including delegation takes about half an hour to setup using Plone. I'm sure other frameworks have other strengths, of course. </div>
<div><br> </div><div>Also, you'd have to think about what you would allow in terms of scaffolds/templates/plugins. If it was a social networking problem, would the rails team be allowed to start from <a href="http://lovdbyless.com/">http://lovdbyless.com/</a> (and the equivalent with other frameworks).</div>
<div><br> </div><div>Cheers</div><div><br> </div><div>David</div><div><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 03/04/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Murray Steele</b> <<a href="mailto:murray.steele@gmail.com">murray.steele@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
It's been announced: <a href="http://www.londonwebweek.co.uk/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.londonwebweek.co.uk/</a><br><br>Whilst doing the dishes (I'm so rock and roll) I had an idea for an event that might fit in with LWW. I freely admit that it might be awful or overly complex but please bear with me.<br>
<br>Web Framework Code-off!<br><br>There are loads of web frameworks, and we'd all like to know what the differences are between them so we can choose which one to use in our next app. So the simplest solution to this would be to have someone talk about each one. Taking it a little bit further, seeing a real app built with each framework would be nice. Of course, seeing the *same* app built with each framework would be even better.<br>
<br>I imagine something like this: teams of 4 would pick a web framework and register their participation (so we don't have everyone using the same framework). On a Friday afternoon (probably the weekend before the first weekend of LWW) the web app to be built would be announced and come the following Monday afternoon the teams would submit their code. The code would be made available online for perusal and at some point later during LWW all the teams would get together and talk about their chosen frameworks in them context of their solution.<br>
<br>Note - there's nothing about this idea that demands the frameworks be ruby-based. We could easily open this up to involve the other language user groups.<br><br>Does this even sound remotely like a thing people would want to participate in or attend?<br>
<br>Muz<div><span class="e" id="q_11915e9dd929deca_1"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 30/03/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Murray Steele</b> <<a href="mailto:murray.steele@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">murray.steele@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
Hi all,<br><br>Patrick Griffiths has been in touch with me asking if LRUG would like to host an event during London Web Week. In his words LWW is:<br><br><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
a collection of events that will be taking place between the 26th May and 1st June this year.<br><br>
The line-up so far includes BarCamp, @media 2008, a WSG evening event, a microformats/semantics evening event, a conference for web design beginners, and several purely social events/parties.<br><br>
The idea is that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, that each event within London Web Week will gain wider exposure, and hopefully web design and development (and best practices within them) will also gain wider exposure in themselves.<br>
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<br>It sounded pretty good and couldn't hurt for us to be involved in some way, so I got some more info about what kind of event he'd like us to organise:<br><br><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
the idea was for each event to be autonomous and to run as they<br>
would normally, so, in your case, the usual thing - something for the<br>
Ruby community rather than making a special effort to attract people to<br>
it (not that that couldn't be achieved too, of course).<br><br>
There will be lots of different events going on, so hopefully there will<br>
be things to appeal to people from lots of different backgrounds, but I<br>
think if we attempt to make all events all things to all people, it<br>
would probably be a mistake.</blockquote><div><br><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
I would suggest Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday evening. There are other<br>
events happening these evenings, but not ones that would have too much<br>
crossover (mostly being front-end development related). <br></blockquote></div>
<br>So, first things to note are that this week doesn't fall into our 2nd Monday of the month routine, in fact it's right slap in the middle of our usual schedule. So one of our normal meetings won't naturally fall during LWW, so we'll have to think about an event to put on (if we want to). The second thing to note is that there's the potential for lots of folk to be away that week as the Monday is a bank holiday and RailsConf USA & Caboose Conf start on the Thursday.<br>
<br>Options obvious to me (and feel free to suggest others) are:<br><br>1. Move the May or June meetings into this week and run them as normal (if slightly out of usual routine)<br>2. Hold a special one-off meeting similar to our normal meetings<br>
3. Organise an LRUG Nights<br>4. Organise some kind of LRUG Nights / normal meeting crossover event - in a pub, mostly agenda free, but we perhaps try to book space in a pub (maybe even one with AV equipment) so that short presentations or demos can happen if folk want.<br>
5. Do the pub quiz that Tom has lying about.<br><br>Anyone have any thoughts? Patrick is announcing LWW on Wednesday and he thought it'd be quite nice if he could at least put "LRUG will do something on Xday evening during LWW" in the announcement. Option 3 seems like the easiest to commit to, but it could easily be "upgraded" to one of the other options as we see fit.<br>
<br>Muz<br>
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