<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 25 Feb 2009, at 16:54, James Adam wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Hi Mark,</div><div><br></div><div>Congrats on your venture. It's hard work, so good luck!</div></div></div></blockquote>Thank you :)</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>While cheaper than some conferences (RailsConf*), that's still a pretty penny. It looks like you're making around 300 tickets available in total, which if you sell out should net you around £60,000. Is that really how much is required to put on a two day technical conference?</div><div><br></div><div>I'd also encourage you to drop the tiered ticketing, and set a simple, fair price with a clear breakdown of where the money is going. As a potential conference attendee, I like (or rather, need) to be able to clearly justify the value I'm going to get. We are living in the crunch, after all :)</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway... all the best,</div><div><br></div><div>James</div></div></blockquote>Thank you for your comments, I do appreciate it. I think I understand where you are coming from; I will attempt to explain a bit of my reasoning:</div><div><br>You're right, it's cheaper than RailsConf*, reasonably comparable to Scotland on Rails, and quite a bit more than Ruby Manor :)</div><div>Ruby Manor looked like it was really very good, I'm sure the next one will be just as great. I'm hoping this conference will be great too, just <i>different</i> and great. As I mentioned a while ago, I think Ruby Manor has a particular style that has been very successful. I have deliberately gone for something quite different, because I think there is room for a different type of event too, and Ruby Manor already does its thing a well as anyone could.</div><div><br></div><div>I went to Scotland on Rails last year (I'm going again this year, it's brilliant!) and was very impressed. I'm aiming for a style of conference similar to that: 2 days, 2 rooms: 1 very large, 1 very very large, food, a live videoconference, technical equipment...</div><div>Already, there are some really fantastic speakers lined up, that can also add expenses. And, really, once you have some great international names involved, coming from 8-10 time zones away, it makes sense to try to fit in as many people as possible. I can't find any large venues the will offer space for free, so I've done the best I can, but it's a significant expense.</div><div><br></div><div>I would say that I'm personally liable for the expenses, and I'm not out to make a profit, I just don't want to make a loss :)</div><div>I've put a budget together, estimated numbers, and gone from there. The 300 seats is the just most the venue can hold, I'm not budgeting assuming that I will sell out :)</div><div>If I do sell out, you can be assured that I will </div><div>a) Be really, very pleasantly surprised</div><div>b) Already be working on ways (with all you guys' help, I hope*) to add more value, and make the event even better. </div><div><br></div>I hope the value you will see will not be evident by these expenses, though - I hope it will be in the excellent quality of the talks, meeting a large number of enthusiasts, and whatever else we can come up with together on the forums.<div><br><div><div><div><div>I can't make it tonight, but I am planning to go to the next LRUG meeting on the 9th, can I bring the crisps, sandwiches and tizer? It'll be fun! </div><div><br></div><div>* I'm hoping that you all can help pick the most interesting topics for talks, possible things to do in the evening, or for a tutorial day, and add your suggestions and ideas... see <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rails-underground">http://groups.google.com/group/rails-underground</a></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Mark.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>