BTW when i say "team" i mean "team of ruby devs", not including designers etc.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 August 2011 12:31, Max Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:toastkid.williams@gmail.com">toastkid.williams@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi all. I'm curious - how many of you have worked on large-team ruby projects? The largest team i've ever worked on doing ruby is 3 people. I suspect that the questions we've been pondering in this thread get more relevant the larger the team gets.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/8/26 J. Pablo Fernández <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pupeno@pupeno.com" target="_blank">pupeno@pupeno.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:09, Glenn Gillen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glenn@rubypond.com" target="_blank">glenn@rubypond.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> (This email is intended as a cultural observation and does not express<br>
> or imply a position on the merits of testing nor on the quality of<br>
> Ruby's code or its developers. I'm very happy working in Ruby, I<br>
> think that on the whole it's at least as well designed as any other<br>
> competing platform, and I don't want anyone to assume that my moment's<br>
> snarkiness was an indicator of general dissatisfaction, because it's<br>
> not)<br>
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</div>How could we make it better? I have a feeling that python does better but I've no real experience to support it. I wonder if the the "Readme Driven Development" approach would be better, especially for gems. All of my thoughts are pretty fluffy though and could really use critical appraisal of someone outside both the ruby and x community.</blockquote>
</div><div><br></div></div>Here I have a question and I mean it as an honest and humble question... what is it that you want to change and why?<div><br></div><div>If I was doing PHP I'd be worried about all the messy code because most of it will be on libraries I have to use (or re-write). In Ruby, surely there are messy projects*, but generally libraries, gems, are in good shape and that's what I care about. Surely we have problems, we are fashion driven and sometimes the popular options feel weird (to me that is, of course).</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's impossible to keep other people from writing messy projects and... it's actually part of learning, to write messy projects. Some people never grow up from that, but as long as they stay away from my code, I'm happy.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I suppose it is a problem if you are a consultant that gets hired to add the final touches to projects, changing projects no a weekly basis.<br><br clear="all"><div>* reading code samples from applicants have been... enlightening... for example... I seen an app with only one controller: application_controller... with tens of actions.</div>
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