<html><head><base href="x-msg://41/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hello,<div><br></div><div>No Heroku does not offer this kind of service.</div><div>That even defeat the point of Heroku in fact.</div><div>Heroku have this cloud/scallability philosophy where everything is separated (mail server, website, other services...).</div><div>Each one is in an environment that is made for that.</div><div>And your DNS settings are more or less making the glue (which is its main purpose).</div><div><br></div><div>Heroku has restriction but when you get the reason for all of them and if you can live with them, that is still one of the easiest option for deploying a ruby-based application.</div><div><br></div><div>So like somebody suggested before me, it sounds like you need more control.</div><div>You have to setup a beast on your own.</div><div>But it doesn't mean you can't use Heroku for the website itself.</div><div>It will even save you at least that part of the job.</div><div><br></div><div>Now I prefer Heroku.</div><div>We still have a server that I administer completely (NGINX and clusters of Thin for Ruby applications).</div><div>It is not the end of the world so I'm sure you can do it.</div><div>It is just a lot more work when you host an eCommerce because you need to be PCI compliant.</div><div>PCI Compliance requires a lot more job in terms of software updates and stuff.</div><div>If it is your case, I would recommend a RedHat because their packages are more up-to-date with these kind of requirements.</div><div>We've got this one on MediaTemple will do.</div><div>Just make sure the Help and Documentation is alright.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck,</div><div>Mig</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 21 May 2012, at 18:25, Viktor Tron wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; "><div>Hi lruggers, </div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for this offish email, but so many clever web people here I wanna hear you.</div><div><br></div><div>I developed a rails app. The client also wants to do a lot of management on the server on the same domain, ideally including:</div><ul><li>blog (wordpress) </li><li>forum (ideally seeded with a phpforum export, but not crucial)</li><li>manage emails, maybe mailing lists</li><li>manage subdomains</li><li>detailed anaylytics</li><li>ftp accounts, manage access</li></ul><div>Since for background jobs I almost defo need root access we opted for a host that offered cpanel-based managed server with root access.</div><div>Now apart from the fact that cpanel feels like a thing of the past and looks like a monster if you look on the server, I also failed to hack apache config to handle my rails app (running on passenger)</div><div>(I simply wanted 2 vhost entries, non-ssl one redirecting to the the other on ssl, already something impossible to do)</div><div><br></div><div>The above seems like a pretty reasonable list of things to want. Now my question to you. How is this best done?</div><div>I do not mind to install wordpress myself and get my hands dirty if you suggest good solutions to the other tasks?</div><div>Are heroku and suchlike rails-friendly hosts offering you these admin UIs and I am just better off trying to get my rails app working without insisting on root shell?</div><div><br></div><div>I appreciate all comments and pointers</div><div><br></div><div>Vik<br><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>Chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Chat@lists.lrug.org">Chat@lists.lrug.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org">http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>