Daniel, Riccardo, Louis<br>Many thanks for all the great advice! I've also started with picking up ruby on its own and only a few months later I've decided to move to rails; now I'm wondering whether I should take my time before plunging into rails.<br>

I think the best advice is probably getting involved in OSS. If there's anyone working on something in need of help, feel free to get in touch. I'll be more than happy to take on anything, even working on test coverage.<br>

<br>Anyway, I think this made me a bit more realistic. I should take my time and learn more before starting to look for a place that might take me more actively.<br><br>Again, thanks all<br>Regards<br>d.f.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">

On 1 September 2012 16:28, Louis Goff-Beardsley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:louisror@gmail.com" target="_blank">louisror@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-GB"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">From a recruitment perspective even if you are pretty skilled in other languages, it’s difficult to land a job until you have reached a level where you can provide active value to a business. However if you study Rails in your own time to the point where you feel you could demonstrate a functional level of ability in a live interview context there are quite a range of opportunities out there. Also focusing your learning around projects you can display publicly on Github etc will help you out later because it will work alongside your CV.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best, Louis<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-1ai5sV1KG8aGlNMFhKM3JwLWc" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue">IMPORTANT: The many Dangers of uploading your CV to a job board</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://goo.gl/1lkpD" target="_blank"><span style="color:white">http://goo.gl/1lkpD</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:white"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">[Louis Goff-Beardsley]<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > Ultra-Specialised Independent Ruby-on-Rails Recruitment.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > Software Sales, Business Development & AC Acquisition for the RoR community.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > LinkedIn:</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">  </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">http://www.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > Skype/</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">Googletalk/Jabba: <a href="mailto:LouisRoR@gmail.com" target="_blank">LouisRoR@gmail.com</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > Email: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:LouisRoR@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">LouisRoR@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > Mobile: </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white"> 07449 324 851 ¦ </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">Land Line: 01183 276 608</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">   > Twitter:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/LouisRoR" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">@LouisRoR</span></a> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">– Below is ASCII Art that will go totally wrong in plain text :(</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white">        \/      \/             \/          \/     \/     \/ <u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white">IRC: LouisGB - <a href="http://irc.freenode.org" target="_blank">irc.freenode.org</a> #LRUG, #NWRUG, #ruby, #rubyonrails<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;text-decoration:none"><img src="" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: http://download.skype.com/share/skypebuttons/buttons/add_green_transparent_118x23.gif" border="0" height="23" width="118"></span></a><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/LouisRoR" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;text-decoration:none"><img src="" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/louis.beardsley/Desktop/LouisRoRTag.JPG" border="0" height="20" width="88"></span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“Louis found my dream job for me. He took a lot of time to get to know me and what I was looking for. He’s obviously got a lot of connections and was able to offer me a variety of roles. Louis actually knows what he’s talking about when it comes to Ruby-on-Rails, which is pretty much unique for a recruiter. He gave me advice on what course of action is best for me, helped me rewrite my CV as I was underselling myself and prepared me for my interviews. Highly recommended!” </span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley" target="_blank"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:blue">Michal K – Now Developer @ Reevoo - May 9, 2012</span></i></a></span><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org" target="_blank">chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org" target="_blank">chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dubflower<br>

<b>Sent:</b> 01 September 2012 15:25<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chat@lists.lrug.org" target="_blank">chat@lists.lrug.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [LRUG] Jumping ship to ruby<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hello all<br>I've been a software developer for a few years now, picked up and master OOP and DDD, worked with model-view-controller frameworks and know more than a thing or two about web development.<br>

I've been recently picking up ruby at home and am really impressed with the language and the echo system. I was wondering what people think of the possibility for a developer like me, with experience with statically typed languages, to become a ruby developer? How realistic can this move be?<br>

Would appreciate any response!<br><br>regards<br>d.f.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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