<font face="arial" size="2"><p style="margin:0;padding:0;">Another for the pot: http://hackerjobs.co.uk/</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">Warm regards,</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">Richard Hart</p>
<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">http://www.ur-ban.com</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;"><br /><br />-----Original Message-----<br />From: "Rosario Rascuna" <r.rascuna@gmail.com><br />Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13pm<br />To: "London Ruby Users Group" <chat@lists.lrug.org><br />Subject: Re: [LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home<br /><br /></p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">I thought about this problem some time ago and created http://roundabout.io.<br /><br />However I wonder now if it's yet another website that we need. There<br />are others like: http://workinstartups.com/ and<br />http://www.coderstack.co.uk/, and none seems to be ridding us of this<br />problem. What should a job listing implement to work for us?<br /><br />.r<br /><br />On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Louis Goff-Beardsley<br /><louisror@gmail.com> wrote:<br />> The vast majority of CVs they get don’t result in placments as their<br />> business model is based on volume and speed. Agency recs have got very<br />> strict KPIs such as 2.5 hours on the phone + 70 dial outs /day + x number of<br />> CVs sent to decision makers. If they spend time faffing around with CVs they<br />> will get it in the neck from their directors who came up during the first<br />> dotcom bubble when IT recrutiment was a megaprofitable free-for-all.<br />><br />> -----Original Message-----<br />> From: chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org] On<br />> Behalf Of Paul Robinson<br />> Sent: 17 September 2012 12:10<br />> To: London Ruby Users Group<br />> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home<br />><br />> On 17 Sep 2012, at 10:11, Chris Mear <chrismear@gmail.com> wrote:<br />><br />>> From my conversations with recruiters, the reason Word format is asked for<br />> is because it's editable (as opposed to something less easily editable, such<br />> as PDF). This is so they can remove your contact details and add their own<br />> header, thus making sure any communication goes through them.<br />><br />><br />> This is bang-on the reason why they want it in Word format - which raises<br />> the question what value are they actually adding to a process where they<br />> must enforce a man-in-the-middle attack to negotiations?<br />><br />><br />>> So I'm sure plain text would be fine.<br />><br />><br />><br />> Not quite. Some recruiters will consider such a format to be<br />> "unprofessional" in its presentation to employers.<br />><br />> So, rather than add value themselves by spending 5 minutes copying/pasting<br />> it into Word, making it look nice and then submitting it, they require the<br />> candidate does this first. Word Doc is the best format for them.<br />><br />> They won't do it themselves, because they might handle many dozens of CVs a<br />> day, and don't want to have to do this with all of them.<br />><br />> Remember, they are commission-based, and there's only so much work they are<br />> prepared to do to secure the right candidate and take 10%-20% of the first<br />> year's salary on a £50k-£70k job. I mean, would you reformat a CV for<br />> £14,000? I know that's too much work to ask me to do for that kind of money!<br />> I'm sure there's other areas where the recruiter is really adding far more<br />> value and where their time is best spent... </sarcasm><br />><br />> Paul<br />><br />> _______________________________________________<br />> Chat mailing list<br />> Chat@lists.lrug.org<br />> http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org<br />><br />> _______________________________________________<br />> Chat mailing list<br />> Chat@lists.lrug.org<br />> http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org<br />_______________________________________________<br />Chat mailing list<br />Chat@lists.lrug.org<br />http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org</p>
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