<div dir="ltr">Thanks for your reply,<div><br></div><div style>What you say makes sense. I am not much interested of querying a DB from the views, but I think that web development is becoming more complex since we write applications using a backend framework, Rails, and a frontend JS framework. Using the same language could make things easier, but I fear Opal could bring more cons than pros.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>ClojureScript is an interesting option, I will have a look. I was looking for an equivalent of CoffeScript and I found Opal, but it does not seems the same thing.</div><div style><br></div>
<div style>Ideally I would like to see in the future another letter added to MVC, where we could have a declarative code to make our apps having similar features of frontend frameworks. It is a bit difficult to me to explain what I mean in a clear way.</div>
<div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 May 2013 11:34, Steven Deobald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steven@c42.in" target="_blank">steven@c42.in</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Riccardo,<div><br></div><div>I haven't used Opal in anger but I would caution you against the holy grail of shared client/server code. I have written a reasonable amount of Clojure/ClojureScript, which in theory makes this possible, but it's really never come up as an attractive solution to any problem I've had. The sort of code I've shared between the client and server in the past tends to be small data-formatting functions, aggregations, and transformations -- all of which are functional.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I've never used Meteor, so a grain of salt is required, but I'm not sure I understand the appeal of accessing the database or other services directly from your views.</div><div>
<br></div><div>On a weirdly related note, if you want to combine ClojureScript and Rails instead, there exist a couple projects for getting ClojureScript into the Rails asset pipeline:</div><div><br></div><div>
<a href="https://github.com/yokolet/clementine" target="_blank">https://github.com/yokolet/clementine</a><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/nicholasbs/clojurescript-rails" target="_blank">https://github.com/nicholasbs/clojurescript-rails</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>My reasons for choosing ClojureScript over CoffeeScript in the past are simply due to the power and functional nature of the language. Obviously there's still a mental gap between server and client code.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><br>Steven Deobald</div><div>C42 -- <a href="http://www.c42.in" target="_blank">www.c42.in</a> -- <a href="http://www.rubymonk.com" target="_blank">www.rubymonk.com</a></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 3 May 2013 16:24, Riccardo Tacconi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rtacconi@gmail.com" target="_blank">rtacconi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi guys,<div><br></div><div>Have you every thought to use Ruby in your Rails project instead of CoffeeScript to write your Javascript? I just found opal-rails which allows to develop Javascript with Ruby:</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/opal/opal-rails" target="_blank">https://github.com/opal/opal-rails</a></div><div><br></div><div>I am not sure about the maturity of the project but this could allow us to extend Rails to work, if needed, as the Meteor Framework:</div>
<div><br></div><div>client? do</div><div> # use jquery</div><div> # use angular.js</div><div>end</div><div><br></div><div>server? do</div><div> # back end stuff</div><div>end</div><div><br></div><div>
What do you think?</div><div><br></div><div>I see that is also possible to use Ruby on node.js: <a href="https://github.com/opal/opal-node#readme" target="_blank">https://github.com/opal/opal-node#readme</a>.</div><div><br clear="all">
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