<div dir="ltr">s/*does/doesn't/<div><br></div><div style>That being said. I've met a couple good recruiters in my time back in San Francisco. They're the ones who can do a brief technical phone screen for you. They're the ones who understand that a github profile is often more important than if the candidate went to university. They're the ones who can recognize a good startup candidate who is hungry for success.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I'd rather have one good CV a week than 15 bad ones.</div><div style><br></div><div style>I've only run into one here in the UK that can provide that kind of quality (LouisROR).</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jim Myhrberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:contact@jimeh.me" target="_blank">contact@jimeh.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">That's pretty much the same experience I've had with recruiters too.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I've been offered various iOS development roles too, despite never having touched iOS development or Objective-C. But my resume does mention I worked on an island in Greece called "Ios" (that's "ios" with a capital "i"). In short, they use stupid case-insensitive text searches of CVs without actually reading them.<br>
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<p dir="ltr">-jimeh</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 24 May 2013 13:11, "Alex Heeton" <<a href="mailto:alex@heeton.me" target="_blank">alex@heeton.me</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Rob, </div><div><br></div><div>I can only share my bad personal experiences. I'm a freelancer and happy to accept roles via recruiters, but I ask one thing: </div><div><br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Here's what I'm good at and what I'm looking for. Please only talk to me about positions that are a good fit for me.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I tell this to everyone who contacts me, and invariably the next message is something like</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Here are 3 roles that match your skills, could you have a look and let me know which ones you are interested in? </blockquote><div><br></div><div>The roles don't match my skills or goals, and normally show a stupidly big range from 30k junior developer to 90k senior sysadmin. </div>
<div><br></div><div>When Enthuse.me used a recruiter, he contacted me about the role, not even doing some basic checks to find out that I *already* worked there.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
<div>I've only ever experienced this dumb shotgun-scatter recruitment. Perhaps there are better recruiters, but I've yet to work with one :) </div><div><br></div><div>~Alex</div><br><div class="gmail_extra">
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:29:47 +0100<br>
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Morning all,<br>
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I hope you are well.<br>
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I appreciate this might be opening a can of worms but I'm keen to get your thoughts and ideally some advice.<br>
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I signed up to LRUG a month or so ago in order to try and gain a better understanding of the Ruby market in London. I've had a positive response from a few candidates but generally speaking I see antipathy towards recruitment consultants / agencies.<br>
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I know there's a stigma attached to our industry but I can assure you we aren't all bad!<br>
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What I'm trying to understand is why employers, and to a certain extent candidates, are so against working with agencies? Is it because of fees? Have you had bad experiences? If it's company policy, why is it company policy?<br>
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I appreciate there are a lot of companies who now operate a direct sourcing model and simply don't need to use agencies. I get that and I understand your reasoning behind this, but for companies who are struggling to find good candidates, and don't have the resources in place to spend the majority of their day sourcing candidates, why won't you use agencies?<br>
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For those of you who are open to working with agencies, what do you feel is the best way for me to approach your company?<br>
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I'm open to suggestions, although things like die, rot in hell and get out of recruitment aren't options I'm afraid :-)<br>
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I take pride in what I do and so it would be really helpful to get your thoughts.<br>
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I don't want to clog up the mailing list so if you have any thoughts / advice, I'd be extremely grateful if you drop me an email or alternatively, feel free to give me a call.<br>
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I look forward to hearing from you.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Rob<br></blockquote></div></div></div>
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