Ultimately to succeed without playing the dirty numbers game, I think word-of-mouth will be the key, and this does mean relationships. But Adrian is right, talk is cheap in the recruitment game, and no amount of words will build a relationship. The relationship comes from behaving ethically and helpfully over time. If you can do this for a few companies, you should be able to continue on solely by referrals without resorting to any cold calls or emails.<div>
<br></div><div>Perhaps the most important thing to understand about relationship building with engineers is that we are practically allergic to typical corporate, political and old boy schmoozing. Software engineers live at the junction between business talk and hard, immutable, unforgiving logic. It doesn't matter if you're a CEO espousing a grand vision, or a recruiter trying to land a commission, when it hits the engineering team all the bullshit evaporates and you're faced with the reality of delivering a working product. Bringing an unqualified candidate to this situation is a guaranteed recipe for fail. Recruiters who don't understand the value of my time and distraction of looking at obviously unqualified candidates are blatantly incompetent. Would you go to a butcher who didn't like to touch meat? Ride in a taxi whose driver was scared of traffic? Hire an accountant who was familiar with tax law?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Adrian Sevitz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adrian@vzaar.com" target="_blank">adrian@vzaar.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I agree with Adam here a lot.<br>
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Although I'm wary of the "try build a relationship". I'm tired of recruiters phone me to try build a relationship. Especially when I don't know them.<br>
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Start by reading our company page and job spec. Sending me a few good candidates. Place one or two. Get recommended. Then I'm ready to start a relationship.<br>
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On 24 May 2013, at 11:38, Adam Carlile <<a href="mailto:adam@benchmedia.co.uk">adam@benchmedia.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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> There's so much animosity out there between recruiters, clients and candidates, I agree wholeheartedly with everything that has been mentioned up to this point.<br>
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> As a recruitment agent you're going to have a really tough time breaking into this community. Even if you come at it with the best intentions, everyone is so jaded from bad recruitment practices that you're going to have to work doubly hard create some traction. Which ultimately can lead you to become jaded with tech companies, and just treat it as a numbers game.<br>
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> It's a vicious cycle, perpetuated by bad, incumbent agencies. In order to break this cycle, you need to understand the technology, the strengths and weaknesses of candidates, and the exact requirements of clients. It's not a difficult thing to do, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be aligned with the cut throat, results based business model that recruitment agencies seem to have.<br>
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> Ultimately you should be trying to build relationships with clients and candidates, understanding their requirements. Trust is a very hard won thing, but once you have it you will be immeasurably more successful than the numbers guys. It's finding the time to build those relationships, before getting fired!<br>
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> Adam<br>
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