<div dir="ltr">@YHH, it is cowardly to hide behind an alias when you publicly condemn others. You bring shame on this house!<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="http://dsjvpv76ko1eo.cloudfront.net/uimg/4a285c93e08f325d95abd4ae77813491.600x" alt="Inline image 1"></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Steve Buckley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sbuckley@globalpersonals.co.uk" target="_blank">sbuckley@globalpersonals.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Morning LRUG</div><div><br></div><div>If anyone has any issues or questions over the issue raised by 'Yukihiro Heninemeir Hansson' (I thought that may have been _why the lucky stiff's true identity for a minute) then by all means feel free to email me directly. We're happy to put a balanced perspective on the issue but discussing it publicly in this thread adds zero value to the group.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Those of you who know me, know that I don't pull any punches and I don't shy away from confrontation and as Michael graciously pointed out yesterday, I have no issue setting the record straight.</div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Steve</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div>On 28 May 2013, at 15:12, Yukihiro Heinemeier Hansson <<a href="mailto:yukihiroheinemeierhansson@gmail.com" target="_blank">yukihiroheinemeierhansson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><p>Hi Steve,</p><p>I'm a senior developer and I'm interested in getting a job at Global Web Dev, I just have a quick question.</p><p>I saw the exposé that channel 4 did on you guys:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/fools-for-love-how-one-internet-dating-firm-dupes-clients" target="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/news/fools-for-love-how-one-internet-dating-firm-dupes-clients</a> <br></p><p>
I was wondering what the split is between time developing and time spent pretending to be a woman on the internet? I have to say that of the two I'm far stronger at development.</p><p>Thanks, YHH</p><p>
<br></p>-------------------------------------<div><p>Fantastic
post. I'd like to repost the comment I left on your blog here for clarity:</p><div> <br></div><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 11.25pt;line-height:15.75pt"><i>Great article but I'd like
to point out that whilst I'm flattered by your comments, I'm not an agency
recruiter. Hacker Jobs is very much an independent side project and my
full-time day job is as the in-house Tech Recruitment Manager for Globaldev. I
don't consult with any other companies and have literally zero intention of
ever venturing back into the world of agency recruitment.</i></p><p style="line-height:15.75pt"><i>That being said, if you're a rubyist in London then there's
an exceptionally high chance of running into me sooner rather than later as
Globaldev are growing immensely.</i></p><div style="line-height:15.75pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(66,71,74)"> </span><br></div><p>Great
work Najaf.</p><div> <br></div><p>Steve</p><div> <br></div><p>On
24 May 2013, at 15:22, Najaf Ali <<a href="mailto:ali@happybearsoftware.com" target="_blank">ali@happybearsoftware.com</a>>
wrote:</p><p><br>
<br>
</p><p>Late
to the party I know, but I started writing a reply and it turned into the
Iliad. It had a fun story in it so I went ahead and published it to my blog
instead:</p><div> <br></div><p><a href="http://happybearsoftware.com/my-experiences-with-recruiters-and-how-id-like-to-be-sold-to.html" target="_blank">http://happybearsoftware.com/my-experiences-with-recruiters-and-how-id-like-to-be-sold-to.html</a></p>
<div> <br></div><p>There's
no identifying information but if you'd like me to remove the quote, let me
know. Also, Steve (Buckley), you're in it.</p><div> <br></div><p>-Ali</p><div style="margin-bottom:12pt"> <br></div><p>On
Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Rob Beattie <<a href="mailto:RBeattie@recruit360.co.uk" target="_blank">RBeattie@recruit360.co.uk</a>>
wrote:</p><p>Morning
all,</p><div> <br></div><p>I
hope you are well.</p><div> <br></div><p>I
appreciate this might be opening a can of worms but I’m keen to get your
thoughts and ideally some advice.</p><div> <br></div><p>I
signed up to LRUG a month or so ago in order to try and gain a better
understanding of the Ruby market in London. I’ve had a positive response
from a few candidates but generally speaking I see antipathy towards
recruitment consultants / agencies. </p><div> <br></div><p>I
know there’s a stigma attached to our industry but I can assure you we aren’t
all bad!</p><div> <br></div><p>What
I’m trying to understand is why employers, and to a certain extent candidates,
are so against working with agencies? Is it because of fees? Have you had
bad experiences? If it’s company policy, why is it company policy? </p><div> <br></div><p>I
appreciate there are a lot of companies who now operate a direct sourcing model
and simply don’t need to use agencies. I get that and I understand your
reasoning behind this, but for companies who are struggling to find good
candidates, and don’t have the resources in place to spend the majority of
their day sourcing candidates, why won’t you use agencies?</p><div> <br></div><p>For
those of you who are open to working with agencies, what do you feel is the
best way for me to approach your company? </p><div> <br></div><p>I’m
open to suggestions, although things like die, rot in hell and get out of
recruitment aren’t options I’m afraid :-)</p><div> <br></div><p>I
take pride in what I do and so it would be really helpful to get your thoughts.</p><div> <br></div><p>I
don’t want to clog up the mailing list so if you have any thoughts / advice,
I’d be extremely grateful if you drop me an email or alternatively, feel free
to give me a call. </p><div> <br></div><p>I
look forward to hearing from you.</p><div> <br></div><p>Regards,</p><p>Rob</p><div> <br></div><p>R<b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:navy">ob
Beattie – Recruit360 </span></b></p><p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(23,54,93)">Tel -
08450 310 360</span></b></p><p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(192,0,0)">Direct
line - <a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29%20117%20906%200146" value="+441179060146" target="_blank">+44 (0) 117 906 0146</a></span></b></p><p><a href="mailto:rbeattie@recruit360.co.uk" target="_blank">rbeattie@recruit360.co.uk</a>
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