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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>From a recruitment perspective I’d say in 2013 around 20% of the contract requirements I’ve had were from companies which would be open to at least discussing this..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m not sure if you could negotiate a day rate for both developers high enough to make it worthwhile until you’ve proved that its more effective than one remote developer. Might have to take a bit of a hit in the first couple of contracts until the junior developer is productive.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The companies which would go for this are open minded teams which don’t have a problem with remote workers, more established teams which typically hire through HR departments and look for onsite developers are going to take issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In the last year I have had success in hiring pairs of developers into companies, although in both cases it was pairs of senior remote developers who had long histories of working together.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Might be companies are interested in this for hiring senior perm remote developers with a junior pair located near to them (rather than contract, as its more of an investment for the company).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Merry Christmas.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Louis Goff-Beardsley<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“You know I'm not a fan of recruitment consultants, right? @LouisRoR is good. You should talk to him if you're looking for Ruby work or staff” </span></i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://twitter.com/p7r/status/291537402084864001"><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:blue'>Paul Robinson – Senior Ruby-on-Rails Developer & CTO - @P7R</span></i></a></span><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://goo.gl/WvuTj"><span style='color:white'>http://goo.gl/WvuTj</span></a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:224.6pt'><td width=670 valign=top style='width:502.85pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;background:black;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:224.6pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'>[Louis Goff-Beardsley]</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > Ultra-Specialised Independent Ruby-on-Rails Recruitment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > Software Sales, Business Development & AC Acquisition for the RoR community.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > LinkedIn: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'>http://www.linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > Skype: LouisGB1 - Googletalk/Jabba: </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'><a href="mailto:LouisRoR@gmail.com"><span style='color:white'>LouisRoR@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > Email: </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'><a href="mailto:LouisRoR@gmail.com"><span style='color:white'>LouisRoR@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > Mobile: 07449 324 851 ¦ Land Line: 01183 xxx xxx<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'> > Twitter:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/LouisRoR"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'>@LouisRoR</span></a> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>– Below is ASCII Art that will go totally wrong in plain text :(</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'>__________ __ __ __________ <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'>\______ \_____ |__| | ______ \______ \ ____ ____ <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'> | _/\__ \ | | | / ___/ | _// __ \_/ ___\ <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'> | | \ / __ \| | |__\___ \ | | \ ___/\ \___ <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'> |____|_ /(____ /__|____/____ > |____|_ /\___ >\___ ><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'> \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:white'>IRC: LouisRoR - irc.freenode.org #LRUG, #NWRUG, #ruby, #rubyonrails<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><a href="skype:louisgb1?add"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=118 height=23 id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image001.gif@01CEFBE8.6ED8CED0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: http://download.skype.com/share/skypebuttons/buttons/add_green_transparent_118x23.gif"></span></a><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/LouisRoR"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=88 height=20 id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CEFBE8.6ED8CED0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/louis.beardsley/Desktop/LouisRoRTag.JPG"></span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“I was speaking to [Senior Ruby Developer] recently about a variety of things and he mentioned your name. In fact he recommended you as a recruiter. *Actually* recommended too, not as in "he's not as evil as the rest", but as in "you really should speak to this guy first"”</span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:black'>This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This email (and any attachment) may be confidential and legally privileged. Access and/or use by others is unauthorised and may be unlawful. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. Contents of this email should not be disseminated, distributed or copied.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Cowlishaw<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 December 2013 12:20<br><b>To:</b> Ruby Group<br><b>Subject:</b> [LRUG] Hiring a pair rather than an individual contractor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Inspired by Ali's 'Technical Intern' job ad, I've got a few questions for those of you who hire independent contract engineers!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Some context: I've thought a great deal about stsarting an initiative like Ali's, whereby I take on a more junior engineer to pair with me on contract work. Being a freelancer is an insane privilege, and I've thought it'd be a great opportunity to both help train people starting out on a career in software, as well as encouraging more people to work independently who might not otherwise consider it, or have the opportunity to do so.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>With that in mind, I'd be very interested to know, from those of you who hire contractors, whether:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(1) You'd be open to the idea of hiring a mixed-ability pair in place of an individual engineer? Would such an arrangement work within the structure of your organization?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(2) You'd perceive this is an arrangement with potential productivity gains (or just as a deadweight loss since the more experienced engineer would spend some time coaching the less experienced one). What sort of multiplier would you be prepared to attach to the cost of a single engineer for such an arrangement?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<br><br>Tim.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>