<div dir="ltr">Despite mainstream organisations gratuitous spewing of buzzwords, we should remember that underneath the layers of BS you'll often find real tools and techniques that in some cases are vital to our craft.<div>
<br></div><div>Dismiss XP at your peril.<br><div><br></div><div><div>Bestie.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Chief agile dramatist.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 January 2014 17:18, Sleepyfox <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sleepyfox@gmail.com" target="_blank">sleepyfox@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Words have emotional attachments for people. I personally have to deal almost every week with prospects, colleagues or clients who conflate dictionary definitions of the word 'agile' with Agile methodologies, Agile tools or techniques and Agile principles and values, needless to say this is frequently a cause of confusion. </div>
<div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">As a consultant in the IT profession I do my best wherever I can to inform and educate, so whilst I do see some people's awareness of Agile (and especially XP being close to my heart) being reduced to a buzzword, I take every opportunity that I can to open their eyes to what a real difference these values and principles have given us with modern development practices, tools and systems.</div>
<div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">I personally feel that throwing the baby out with the bathwater isn't productive. </div><div style="font-size:small">
<br></div><div style="font-size:small">If people don't want to use Agile/XP/Scrum/FDD/whatever, that's fine by me, it's not a silver bullet. If you get on just fine without TDD, pairing, CI etc. then fair enough.</div>
<div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">Anthony's original post was aimed at people who do enjoy these things - a sentiment that I share. </div><div style="font-size:small">
<br></div><div style="font-size:small">To further the discussion, I've run a Code Dojo at 7digital and they seem pretty switched on about these things, same for Unruly Media and Badoo, though I don't know whether either of these are currently recruiting.</div>
<div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">All the best, </div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">
Fox</div><div style="font-size:small">--</div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 January 2014 16:54, Najaf Ali <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@happybearsoftware.com" target="_blank">ali@happybearsoftware.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Agile is a member of the set buzzwords, so technically just fine without either.</div><div>
<div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Sleepyfox <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sleepyfox@gmail.com" target="_blank">sleepyfox@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Najaf: just fine without Agile or just fine without buzzwords? </div>
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Fox</div><div style="font-size:small">--</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 January 2014 16:31, Najaf Ali <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ali@happybearsoftware.com" target="_blank">ali@happybearsoftware.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><i><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">> Thanks Anthony, that's a great idea. I've also struggled with finding employers (in the past) or clients (now that I'm running > my own business) that even have agile.clue > 0 (as opposed to say, </span><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);font-family:'dejavu sans mono',monospace;font-size:11px;line-height:13px">SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">)</span></i><br>
</div><div><br></div></div>As someone who's experienced more than his fair share of the church of Agile and other forms of buzzword-driven-development, please: send them my way! My clients and I get on just fine without it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Sleepyfox <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sleepyfox@gmail.com" target="_blank">sleepyfox@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Thanks Anthony, that's a great idea. I've also struggled with finding employers (in the past) or clients (now that I'm running my own business) that even have agile.clue > 0 (as opposed to say, <span style="color:rgb(255,0,0);font-family:'dejavu sans mono',monospace;font-size:11px;line-height:13px">SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier</span>)</div>
<div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div>Most are rather like this guy: <a href="https://twitter.com/sleepyfox/statuses/416556441885896704" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/sleepyfox/statuses/416556441885896704</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Fox</div><div>--</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 January 2014 11:52, Anthony Green <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anthony.charles.green@gmail.com" target="_blank">anthony.charles.green@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Frustrated at being unable to find roles with organisations that embrace XP practices: pairing, TDD, GOOS, CI etc I've created a Twitter account for those in the same boat: @XPJobs.<br>
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It's low posting as you can imagine but if people know of genuine opportunities that fore fill that explicit criteria and you tweet them would you mind CC'ing that account.<br>
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In the meantime here's James Courtois and Hugo Corbucci on the Joys and Sorrows of Metaprogramming:<br>
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<a href="https://vimeo.com/83768983" target="_blank">https://vimeo.com/83768983</a><br>
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best<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Anthony Green<br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/xpjobs" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/xpjobs</a><br>
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