<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br></div><div>@Mike Good one! I can totally imagine someone giving that excuse. The problem is it's missing the point of DCI. </div><div><br></div><div>In that case your method privacy is at the wrong level, just have your decorator not expose that method. If you have to rely on always having the decorator that's fine, object composition is a thing that should be done.</div><div><br></div><div>* I know that an object must delegate all methods to be a true decorator, no trolls plz.</div><div><br>On 4 Mar 2014, at 09:58, Mike Kelly <<a href="mailto:mikekelly321@gmail.com">mikekelly321@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">I can only come up with one: you can't call private methods via delegation without resorting to `send`.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 4 Mar 2014 09:37, "Stephen Best" <<a href="mailto:bestie@gmail.com">bestie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Also why do Ruby developers insist on implementing DCI by mixing in modules at runtime? It's just completely unnecessary, why not decorate?<div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 March 2014 09:35, Stephen Best <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bestie@gmail.com" target="_blank">bestie@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">DHH as usual saying the best way to design your objects is don't. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><br>Stephen Best<br><br><a href="tel:%2B44%207745%20790523" value="+447745790523" target="_blank">+44 7745 790523</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 March 2014 23:09, Mark Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markthedeveloper@gmail.com" target="_blank">markthedeveloper@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">It's kind of similar, but DCI is kind of like a run-time only ActiveSupport::Concern.<div>It's still a big bag o' methods, but a big dynamic bag of methods. Maybe less chance of collisions, but</div>
<div>the principle is still the same as AS::Concern.</div><div>Interactors in the sense of the interactor gem are cleaner as you're not polluting a potentially already</div><div>overloaded domain model/persistence object hybrid.</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 March 2014 22:18, Riccardo Tacconi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rtacconi@gmail.com" target="_blank">rtacconi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Tom,<div><br></div><div>Your interactor reminds me the I part (interaction) of DCI, am I wrong? I see few similarities.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>
On 3 March 2014 20:38, Tom Blomfield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomblomfield@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomblomfield@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I wrote a blog post on Interactors in Rails - <a href="http://eng.joingrouper.com/blog/2014/03/03/rails-the-missing-parts-interactors" target="_blank">http://eng.joingrouper.com/blog/2014/03/03/rails-the-missing-parts-interactors</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>You might enjoy the discussion on HN, with DHH wading in <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7335211" target="_blank">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7335211</a></div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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