<html><head></head><body data-blackberry-caret-color="#00a8df" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: initial;"><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">This is based on having numerous junior developers getting in contact after the boot camp. The feed back from companies is usually that they just don't have enough experience. I don't think it's anything wrong with the syllabus, it's just that you need a certain amount of time under your belt until most companies are genuinely interested in you. The companies who are friendly to entry level juniors generally get swamped and are at max capacity pretty quick. </div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; line-height: initial;"><br></span></div><div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I'm happy to provide help and support for developers who are struggling though and I've coached plenty until the point where they are employable. Same goes with people crossing over to Ruby from other languages.</div> <div style="width: 100%; font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br name="BB10" caretmarkerset="INVALID" class="markedForCaretMarkerRemoval"></div> <div style="font-size: initial; font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Best, Louis<br><br>Sent from my Nokia iPhone touch.<br>07449324851<br>Skype/Gtalk: LouisRoR@gmail.com<br>linkedin.com/in/louisbeardsley <br>twitter.com/LouisRoR <br></div> <table width="100%" style="background-color:white;border-spacing:0px;"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="2" style="font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <div id="_persistentHeader" style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; font-family: Tahoma, 'BB Alpha Sans', 'Slate Pro'; font-size: 10pt;"> <div><b>From: </b>Michael Pavling</div><div><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:04</div><div><b>To: </b>chat@lists.lrug.org</div><div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [LRUG] Juniors</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(186, 188, 209); border-top-width: 1pt; font-size: initial; text-align: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"></div><br><div id="_originalContent" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 May 2014 15:57, Louis Goff-Beardsley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:louisror@gmail.com" target="_blank">louisror@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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developers [boot camps] produce are often not immediately employable.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I can't speak for others (other 'boot camps' that is), but my experience teaching at General Assembly (as a contractor... so I have no corporate axe to grind) is absolutely antithetical of that - as is the employment stats of the grads from the WDI courses that have run over the last year, and the attitude of employers that attend the recruitment 'meet-and-greets' that run at the end of each course.</div>
<div><br></div><div>From what I hear of other providers' courses though, the stories are very similar, so I'd be interested to find out what you're basing that assertion on. What sorts of things do you feel the graduates you meet are often lacking that causes them to not be immediately employable? (since the curriculum of the courses are generally based on the premise that they should be... and if we're missing anything, it would be nice to know)</div>
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