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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Actually, in my company, we are looking for people of any level and we don't mind if you haven't previous commercial experience.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Would you send me an email at poirier.alexis12@gmail.com and I will contact you just to speak about the interview process.<div><div><br></div><div>Thank you and have a nice day</div><div><br></div><div>Alexis. </div></div></div><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:56:34 +0100<br>From: ali@happybearsoftware.com<br>To: chat@lists.lrug.org<br>Subject: Re: [LRUG] [JOBS] Junior Ruby Dev (Advice?)<br><br><div dir="ltr"><i>> <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;"> any job I go for which is primarily Ruby based is going to either a) have a wealth of people who do have commercial Ruby experience and so pass me over</span></i><div><i><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;"><br></span></i></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">I can't comment on the rest of your email but trust me, a wealth of people with Ruby experience is a problem<i> literally no one</i> has.</span></div></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Kevin Fullerton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lrug@kenwa-solutions.co.uk" target="_blank">lrug@kenwa-solutions.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On a similar (slightly related) note, what are the best options for those of us that have more commitments and more experience outside of Ruby who would like to move into a more Ruby based role?<br>
<br>
Case in point, I've been working as a developer mainly in Microsoft technologies (started out with VB3, moved with VB through to VB6 until .NET and have done primarily C# since) and have a wealth of experience doing development, support around many more niche products (Windows thick-client CRM apps for example) and wife + children means after work I don't get the chance I'd necessarily require to build an impressive portfolio of Ruby/Rails projects on GitHub to show what level I'm at in that regard.<br>
<br>
I've started applying for Ruby based jobs but the fear I have is due to my length of service/speciality so far commercially, any job I go for which is primarily Ruby based is going to either a) have a wealth of people who do have commercial Ruby experience and so pass me over or b) be offering a salary far below what I currently earn as I'd need to go in at a more junior level (which if it was just me I would have no issues with to get a chance to learn and prove the skills I have, however I have a wife + children to support as well)<br>
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Cheers!<br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
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Case in p<div class="ecxHOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 2015-06-18 22:33, <a href="mailto:amscott@openmailbox.org" target="_blank">amscott@openmailbox.org</a> wrote:<br>
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Dear LRUG,<br>
<br>
A few months ago I posted here looking for job postings for a Junior<br>
developer role. As a result of the replies, I ended up having a few<br>
interviews with a few good companies, who liked me, thought I had<br>
potential, but were dissuaded by my lack of commercial experience.<br>
<br>
Those companies told me reapply in due course once I had the<br>
prerequisite experience. Having worked on a startup of my own, and<br>
having an 80 hour a week work ethic, I felt obviously that I would be<br>
able to make up the shortfall caused by this.<br>
<br>
Basically what I'm asking is are there any roles for people without<br>
commercial experience, but who are prepared to put the work in? My<br>
Github shows that I am industrious and don't necessarily need my hand<br>
held to the same extent as others. Any advice on this front would be<br>
much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Many thanks,<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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