<div dir="ltr">Hi <span style="font-size:12.8px">Damilola,</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I just finished General Assembly's 12 week immersive. It was expensive, but definitely worth it - strong understanding of building APIs in Node.js and Rails with authentication, good grasp of Angular, covering sockets and much more. They have great lecturers and assign homework every night (e.g build Facebook tonight). I ended up coding 80 hours+ a week, staying up until 3am many nights. Plus, they have a special loan program that can make paying for it easier. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"> I didn't know about Founders & Coders until I started the course. I met them a week into my course and they are a nice group of people. They are quite different when it comes to coding schools. They have you teach your peers. They do cover test-driven development (GA didn't cover much of it), but they only cover JavaScript. It's up to you to decide what learning experience works best for you. </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><b>I'd definitely get into codewars and go to Founders & Coders Monday socials to meet them (see meetup <a href="http://www.meetup.com/founderscoders/events/224347291/">http://www.meetup.com/founderscoders/events/224347291/</a>).</b></span></div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have anymore questions.</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</div><div><br></div><div>Evan Gillogley</div><div><a href="http://evanjmg.com">evanjmg.com</a></div><div><br></div><img src="http://t.sidekickopen21.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v5dcNHW3MqxM68q-mBWW64JdYY1pctGFW35Z4YY1k1H6H0?si=5816978795659264&pi=42520e72-d548-460a-d872-a385f3471414" style="display:none!important" height="1" width="1"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:02 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chat-request@lists.lrug.org" target="_blank">chat-request@lists.lrug.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Chat mailing list submissions to<br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 12:54:36 +0100<br>
From: Sasha Cooper <<a href="mailto:jinksy@gmail.com">jinksy@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but <a href="http://www.foundersandcoders.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.foundersandcoders.com/</a> is<br>
a bootcamp with apparently no tuition fees.<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 13:45:56 +0100<br>
> Subject: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
><br>
> Hi LRUG,<br>
><br>
> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
><br>
> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
><br>
> If you do please let me know!<br>
><br>
> Kindly,<br>
><br>
> Damilola Odelola<br>
><br>
><br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: Steve <<a href="mailto:steve.laing@gmail.com">steve.laing@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: London Ruby Users Group <<a href="mailto:chat@lists.lrug.org">chat@lists.lrug.org</a>><br>
> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:09:02 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> Hi Damilola,<br>
><br>
> It might be worth checking out <a href="http://wegotcoders.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wegotcoders.com/</a> as they offer a<br>
> mixture of intensive tuition followed by mentored placement in a junior<br>
> role. I understand their fees structure is spread out in various ways...<br>
> <a href="http://wegotcoders.com/trainee-web-developer-course/price-plans" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wegotcoders.com/trainee-web-developer-course/price-plans</a><br>
><br>
> I've worked with one of their graduates in a recent contract and I was<br>
> impressed with the level they had achieved having no previous experience as<br>
> a developer.<br>
><br>
> Steve<br>
><br>
> On 23 September 2015 at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>><br>
>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
>> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>><br>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>><br>
>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>><br>
>> Kindly,<br>
>><br>
>> Damilola Odelola<br>
>><br>
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>><br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:19:11 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> <a href="http://railsgirls.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://railsgirls.com</a> events are a good place to get started and inspired.<br>
><br>
> On 23 September 2015 at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>><br>
>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
>> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>><br>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>><br>
>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>><br>
>> Kindly,<br>
>><br>
>> Damilola Odelola<br>
>><br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:31:05 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> Hi Damilola,<br>
><br>
> Do you know about <a href="http://codebar.io/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://codebar.io/</a>? They run free workshops to teach<br>
> people who are brand new to coding ? they might also be able to provide<br>
> advice about getting that first programming job.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> -Tom<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:20:01 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
><br>
> Thanks Steve!<br>
><br>
> I'm graduate of WGC so I'm fully aware of them haha :)<br>
><br>
> Damilola Odelola<br>
> On 23 Sep 2015 2:09 pm, "Steve" <<a href="mailto:steve.laing@gmail.com">steve.laing@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Damilola,<br>
>><br>
>> It might be worth checking out <a href="http://wegotcoders.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wegotcoders.com/</a> as they offer a<br>
>> mixture of intensive tuition followed by mentored placement in a junior<br>
>> role. I understand their fees structure is spread out in various ways...<br>
>> <a href="http://wegotcoders.com/trainee-web-developer-course/price-plans" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wegotcoders.com/trainee-web-developer-course/price-plans</a><br>
>><br>
>> I've worked with one of their graduates in a recent contract and I was<br>
>> impressed with the level they had achieved having no previous experience as<br>
>> a developer.<br>
>><br>
>> Steve<br>
>><br>
>> On 23 September 2015 at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot<br>
>>> of mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kindly,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Damilola Odelola<br>
>>><br>
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> To: London Ruby Users Group <<a href="mailto:chat@lists.lrug.org">chat@lists.lrug.org</a>><br>
> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:24:04 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
><br>
> Thank you Kenneth!<br>
><br>
> I should mention too that this isn't for me - I have already gone through<br>
> the bootcamp process & currently work full time as a developer - it's for a<br>
> male friend who can't afford the cost of fees but would still like to get<br>
> into coding & some practical ways to build up experience & his portfolio.<br>
><br>
> Kindly,<br>
><br>
> Damilola Odelola<br>
> On 23 Sep 2015 2:19 pm, "Kenneth Lee" <<a href="mailto:kenfodder@gmail.com">kenfodder@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> <a href="http://railsgirls.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://railsgirls.com</a> events are a good place to get started and<br>
>> inspired.<br>
>><br>
>> On 23 September 2015 at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot<br>
>>> of mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kindly,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Damilola Odelola<br>
>>><br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:43:07 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> +1 for WeGotCoders. I was one of their first graduates, and am currently<br>
> working with someone who completed more recently.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi LRUG,<br>
><br>
> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
><br>
> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
><br>
> If you do please let me know!<br>
><br>
> Kindly,<br>
><br>
> Damilola Odelola<br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:53:10 +0200<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.codenewbie.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.codenewbie.org/</a> is about people who are trying to get into<br>
> coding.<br>
><br>
> Med Venlig hilsen / Best regards<br>
><br>
> Klaus Hebsgaard<br>
><br>
> Website: <a href="http://www.hebsgaard.dk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.hebsgaard.dk</a><br>
> Blog: *<a href="http://www.khebbie.dk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.khebbie.dk</a> <<a href="http://www.khebbie.dk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.khebbie.dk</a>>*<br>
> LinkedIIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/klaushebsgaard" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/klaushebsgaard</a><br>
> Github: <a href="https://github.com/khebbie" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/khebbie</a><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>><br>
>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
>> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>><br>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>><br>
>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>><br>
>> Kindly,<br>
>><br>
>> Damilola Odelola<br>
>><br>
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> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:15:08 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> Ah, I thought I recognised the name. You were at WeGotCoders as well, were<br>
> you not?<br>
><br>
> I investigated a lot of this for about 6 months before I decided to join<br>
> Dan. There are a lot of learning resources out there, but not many of them<br>
> will help you enough to get into a job.<br>
><br>
> Most of mine I found through the web, many of which no longer exist. But<br>
> Google is always a good starting point, especially for anything that is<br>
> community centric or community driven.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 14:24, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thank you Kenneth!<br>
><br>
> I should mention too that this isn't for me - I have already gone through<br>
> the bootcamp process & currently work full time as a developer - it's for a<br>
> male friend who can't afford the cost of fees but would still like to get<br>
> into coding & some practical ways to build up experience & his portfolio.<br>
><br>
> Kindly,<br>
><br>
> Damilola Odelola<br>
> On 23 Sep 2015 2:19 pm, "Kenneth Lee" <<a href="mailto:kenfodder@gmail.com">kenfodder@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> <a href="http://railsgirls.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://railsgirls.com</a> events are a good place to get started and<br>
>> inspired.<br>
>><br>
>> On 23 September 2015 at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot<br>
>>> of mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kindly,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Damilola Odelola<br>
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> From: Jon Wood <<a href="mailto:jon@ninjagiraffes.co.uk">jon@ninjagiraffes.co.uk</a>><br>
> To: London Ruby Users Group <<a href="mailto:chat@lists.lrug.org">chat@lists.lrug.org</a>><br>
> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:09:01 +0000<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
><br>
> Thoughtbot open sourced some of the material they use to train their<br>
> apprentices a while back. While I've not used it in anger, it looks pretty<br>
> thorough, although it'll need to be used in conjunction with some mentoring<br>
> for full effect I think.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://github.com/thoughtbot/trail-map" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/thoughtbot/trail-map</a><br>
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> Jon<br>
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> On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 13:56 damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>><br>
>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
>> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>><br>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>><br>
>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>><br>
>> Kindly,<br>
>><br>
>> Damilola Odelola<br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 19:41:12 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> Hi Damilola,<br>
><br>
> I'd check out <a href="http://www.foundersandcoders.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.foundersandcoders.com/</a> (it's js rather than<br>
> Ruby but...).<br>
> It's a free bootcamp and the pre-requisites are useful resources even if<br>
> your friend were not successful in being accepted.<br>
> Hope this helps<br>
><br>
> Jay<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 1:45 PM, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi LRUG,<br>
>><br>
>> I was hoping you could help with some suggestions, since there are lot of<br>
>> mixed experiences & backgrounds in this chat.<br>
>><br>
>> I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
>> possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
>> afford bootcamp fees.<br>
>><br>
>> If you do please let me know!<br>
>><br>
>> Kindly,<br>
>><br>
>> Damilola Odelola<br>
>><br>
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> To: London Ruby Users Group <<a href="mailto:chat@lists.lrug.org">chat@lists.lrug.org</a>><br>
> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:14:20 +0100<br>
> Subject: [LRUG] [JOBS] Engineer for self-funded startup growing 100%<br>
> year-on-year, 3 years in a row<br>
> We are a self-funded startup growing 100% year-on-year in both engineers<br>
> and turnover. We work with the biggest companies in the world that<br>
> are aggressively rolling out Platforms as a Service, most of them eclipsing<br>
> Heroku. They are the innovators with the budget to innovate.<br>
><br>
> If you?ve been in the coding scene for a couple of years, we would like to<br>
> hear from you. We code primarily in Ruby & Go, but there?s plenty of<br>
> everything in between test-driven bash scripting and highly transactional<br>
> Java running on the most enterprise of JVMs. Language doesn?t matter, we<br>
> only care about simple code communicated well.<br>
><br>
> We believe that the best code gets written in pairs, starting with tests<br>
> that make good design evolve. All the code that we write gets continuously<br>
> delivered straight into production, pipelines dominating the dashboards of<br>
> all offices that we work in. We practise eXtreme Programming (XP) in the<br>
> most pure form. We get often involved in R&D contracts with the biggest<br>
> names in the IT sector that would not be feasible without this pure XP<br>
> approach.<br>
><br>
> You will be primarily based in Shoreditch & the Old St area. The role is<br>
> full-time, PAYE & on site, no exceptions.<br>
><br>
> Cheers, Gerhard.<br>
><br>
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> Cc:<br>
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:32:04 +0100<br>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Learning help<br>
> On 23 September 2015 at 13:45, damilola odelola <<a href="mailto:damzcodes@gmail.com">damzcodes@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> > I was wondering if anyone knows of any alternatives to get into coding &<br>
> > possibly a work experience for someone who is brand new to coding & can't<br>
> > afford bootcamp fees.<br>
><br>
> Bootcamp fees aren't the same everywhere... <a href="http://www.codeclan.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.codeclan.com</a> has just<br>
> opened its doors in Edinburgh. As a not-for-profit social enterprise,<br>
> we have a different approach to pricing for our course, and there are<br>
> bursaries coming onboard from employers to offer support to those that<br>
> need it (and qualify).<br>
><br>
> Okay, you might need to relocate to Scotland for the duration (four<br>
> months), but the cost of living here is a lot less than in London (I<br>
> pay half what I did in Farringdon, for twice as much space).<br>
><br>
> Drop me a line if you want to know more (or check the website, or drop<br>
> in if you happen to be in the area).<br>
><br>
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From: Zoltan Biber <<a href="mailto:zoltan.biber@gmail.com">zoltan.biber@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Thanks you guys for the comments, I shall dig in.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Zoltan<br>
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On 25 Sep 2015, at 21:10, Sam Livingston-Gray <<a href="mailto:geeksam@gmail.com">geeksam@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
This is more of a general recommendation, but: if podcasts fit into your life in some way (I listen to them while I do dishes or fold laundry), I highly recommend going through the Ruby Rogues back catalog. There are well over 200 episodes now, so you may want to pick and choose, but there are some absolutely amazing nuggets of learning sprinkled throughout. I particularly liked "How to Learn", and the ones with Sandi Metz and Tom Stuart as guest Rogues.<br>
-Sam<br>
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Zoltan Biber <<a href="mailto:zoltan.biber@gmail.com">zoltan.biber@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
I?m working with Ruby / Rails for about 1.5 years now, loving the language, the framework and the open source world but as I work on a complex app at my job<br>
it is always the stack/architecture of things that can be difficult to master (e.g. the order in which code is executed in the stack). Would be keen to hear some opinions from fellow LRUG-ers:<br>
<br>
1. Can you suggest a good book on Software Engineering / Software Architecture suitable as a first read on the topic?<br>
Fresh stuff that is up-do-date with SOA,Microservices and Cloud Computing would be great.<br>
It looks to me that the above have (completely) changed the ballgame but I might be wrong and the core fundamentals are absolutely the same?<br>
Bonus: Is there a good book covering s. architecture built around Ruby/Rails? Or is that clashing with the generalist (language agnostic) approach of s.engineering?<br>
I tend to find loads of tutorials that tell you WHAT to do and HOW but not so much about the WHY (in the grand scheme of things).<br>
<br>
2. How did any of you guys transition from a newbie to that engineer level stating the year when you started from zero and education.<br>
Here we have to distinguish between people starting web development in the ?old days? and ?nowadays? because<br>
in the old days people had the pain of not having the plethora of tools/documentation/tutorials available today but also the luxury of learning a<br>
new tool/technology incrementally as the number of moving parts was much less and new tools were not released by minute.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Zoltan<br>
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