<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap:break-word"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">When I started out as a Dev I was working in a product agency mostly working on early stage prototypes for startups to try and get more funding. Most of my workload was building out the view layer. Eventually I became more experienced with Rails and was building out features in some comparatively complicated Apps. Building something fairly complicated from the User’s perspective with not very deep knowledge of Rails was however fairly easy. Yeah the code probably wasn’t very pretty, scalable or understandable but it got the work done and the client was happy.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><div id="bloop_sign_1467815502326371072" class="bloop_sign"><p>Until you need to handle problems of scale or do something fairly different from the standard CRUD app you don’t need to dig too deep. Knowing which bits of code are Ruby and which are Rails doesn’t come into it when you’re *always* using Rails and aren’t doing anything too complicated.</p><p><br></p><p>As you dig deeper and need to do more complicated things, only then do you start to learn Ruby properly. At least in my experience.</p><p><br></p><p>Tommy</p><p></p></div></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div> <div id="bloop_sign_1467815502326371072" class="bloop_sign"><p><br></p></div><p class="airmail_on">On 6 July 2016 at 15:30:53, Luke Bennellick (<a href="mailto:bennellick.luke@gmail.com">bennellick.luke@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div dir="ltr">I think it depends what you mean by proficient. You
can become proficient at building CRUD style apps like a blog etc
without much Ruby, but not much else!
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 6 July 2016 at 12:36, gvim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gvimrc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gvimrc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I
hear of this a lot - the Rails dev who hardly knows Ruby and I'm
left scratching my head. How on earth can anyone become proficient
in a complex framework like Rails without understanding the
language it's written in?<br>
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Someone please enlighten me.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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gvim<br>
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