<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 July 2016 at 15:32, Leonardo Saraiva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vyper@maneh.org" target="_blank">vyper@maneh.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I see many people asking and using active record for search, persist... but does not know "nothing" about SQL.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I find this an absolutely fantastic enabler. It's great (to this humble guy, at least) that someone can come along with little-to-no programming knowledge - and with some basic guidance - build something meaningful with Rails and Ruby. This is just one reason why programmes such as RailsGirls are so successful in capturing the minds of newcomers to programming.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Jon Wood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jon@ninjagiraffes.co.uk" target="_blank">jon@ninjagiraffes.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I can't speak to the mythical Rails developer who doesn't know Ruby, but I do have quite frequent frustrating conversations with my brother who hacks things together in C#. They tend to involve him complaining that some seemingly trivial problem is far to complex to solve, and invariably it turns out his approach of searching Stack Overflow for answers vaguely similar but never attempting to understand them means he doesn't understand the fundamentals. He's the C# equivalent of a Rails developer who can hook up models, but wouldn't even know that model classes can inherit from things other than ActiveRecord::Base, and in both cases its caused by not having the time and/or motivation to look into how things actually work.</div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 at 15:08 gvim <<a href="mailto:gvimrc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gvimrc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I hear of this a lot - the Rails dev who hardly knows Ruby and I'm left<br>
scratching my head. How on earth can anyone become proficient in a<br>
complex framework like Rails without understanding the language it's<br>
written in?<br>
<br>
Someone please enlighten me.<br>
<br>
gvim<br>
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