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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ve run into this multiple times; developers who look great on paper “5 years of Ruby on Rails experience” – but it’s been lots of Rails and not
working so much with the core language. In almost every case I’ve seen its been where people have worked either as isolated freelance developers or working in smaller digital agencies.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Really sucks when it happens as peoples salary expectations go from being sky-high to facing the harsh reality that they aren’t the senior developer
they think they are. The remedy is to spend some time as a mid-level developer in a company with a more balanced usage of Ruby/Rails to get their careers back on track.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Chat [mailto:chat-bounces@lists.lrug.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tommy Palmer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 July 2016 15:58<br>
<b>To:</b> Luke Bennellick <bennellick.luke@gmail.com>; London Ruby Users Group <chat@lists.lrug.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [LRUG] The puzzling phenomenon of the Rails dev who hardly knows Ruby<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">When I started out as a Dev I was working in a product agency mostly working on early stage prototypes for startups to try and get more funding. Most of my workload was building
out the view layer. Eventually I became more experienced with Rails and was building out features in some comparatively complicated Apps. Building something fairly complicated from the User’s perspective with not very deep knowledge of Rails was however fairly
easy. Yeah the code probably wasn’t very pretty, scalable or understandable but it got the work done and the client was happy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Until you need to handle problems of scale or do something fairly different from the standard CRUD app you don’t need to dig too deep. Knowing which bits of code are Ruby and which are Rails
doesn’t come into it when you’re *always* using Rails and aren’t doing anything too complicated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">As you dig deeper and need to do more complicated things, only then do you start to learn Ruby properly. At least in my experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Tommy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="airmailon"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On 6 July 2016 at 15:30:53, Luke Bennellick (<a href="mailto:bennellick.luke@gmail.com">bennellick.luke@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I think it depends what you mean by proficient. You can become proficient at building CRUD style apps like a blog etc without much Ruby, but not much else!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On 6 July 2016 at 12:36, gvim <<a href="mailto:gvimrc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gvimrc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I hear of this a lot - the Rails dev who hardly knows Ruby and I'm left scratching my head. How on earth can anyone become proficient in a complex framework like Rails without
understanding the language it's written in?<br>
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