<div dir="auto">I feel like when people say "political" they are assuming "democratic". I can be persuaded that we should keep arguments about tax rates or housing policy for example out of "Ruby spaces". <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But what DHH is celebrating/encouraging is clearly anti-democratic. In the "London" post he explicitly endorses the views of "Tommy Robinson" and a guy who calls for trans people to be attacked. These are not just political view points in my opinion. I hesitate to escalate language but they encourage things I would recognise as fascistic. This would be abhorrent from anyone and I think it's reprehensible from someone in a position of control and influence within our community. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think if these people win many people won't be able to enjoy the things celebrated in this thread - making things, meeting diverse groups of people, freedom of travel and association etc. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, 11:47 AM Greg Molnar via Chat <<a href="mailto:chat@lists.lrug.org">chat@lists.lrug.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div>Just to give a counterpoint, I don't really care about others' political view. I go to conferences and share the love of Ruby and Rails with folks of various ethnicity, religion, gender, politics, etc and we have a great time and great conversations together.</div><div>Whatever views DHH holds, he is good for the community in my opinion. Under his stewardship Rails moves forward, we have a Rails renaissance, and the bigger the community gets, the more opportunities arise for all of us. A tide lift all the boats.</div><div>So I say let's keep building, let's keep helping each other and cheer for the success of others.</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Sep 25, 2025, at 9:46 AM, James Smith via Chat wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" id="m_-1536998791411594985qt"><div>Hi folks,</div><div><br></div><div>I recently read DHH’s take on London, how it’s “no longer British” and his support for Tommy Robinson and the far right, and quite frankly it made me sick, having been a Rails dev since 1.2, and a Brit since 1976.</div><div><br></div><div>If it did the same for you, you might want to co-sign this open letter I’ve started calling for the Rails Core team to cut ties with him and remove his influence: <a href="https://github.com/Plan-Vert/open-letter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/Plan-Vert/open-letter</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>If this doesn't bother you, or you just don’t want to mix politics and code, then fine, please just delete this email and move on. Rest assured I’ve had all the standard abuse already, there’s no need to repeat it.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, forking Rails it would be almost impossible. Yes, the attempt will probably fail, I knew that on day one. But I had to try something, I love this language, framework and place too much to let them be tarnished like this.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>James Smith</div><div><br></div><div>PS I did check with the organisers before posting “political” content to the list.</div><div>_______________________________________________</div><div>Chat mailing list</div><div><a href="mailto:Chat@lists.lrug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Chat@lists.lrug.org</a></div><div>Archives: <a href="http://lists.lrug.org/pipermail/chat-lrug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://lists.lrug.org/pipermail/chat-lrug.org</a></div><div>Manage your subscription: <a href="http://lists.lrug.org/options.cgi/chat-lrug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://lists.lrug.org/options.cgi/chat-lrug.org</a></div><div>List info: <a href="http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://lists.lrug.org/listinfo.cgi/chat-lrug.org</a></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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