[LRUG] Difficult second album

Stephen Best bestie at gmail.com
Tue Oct 29 15:09:18 PDT 2013

Mark: +1 from me, great idea.

I think that's going to be a challenging talk to put together but I'm
looking forward to it.


On 29 October 2013 09:07, Stephen Masters <stephen.masters at me.com> wrote:

> That’s pretty much the approach taken in Martin Fowler’s book
> “Refactoring”, so maybe a scan of that might provide some ideas for
> structure. Doing a quick search for “architectural refactoring” gives
> plenty of results on the topic, so it may be worth taking the approach of
> how to implement some of those ‘named’ refactorings in a Rails application.
> Alternatively, it might be worth naming Rails-specific problems and
> proposing associated refactorings. If they don’t already exist, coming up
> with names could be half the fun. :)
> Steve
> On 28 Oct 2013, at 23:09, Mark Burns <markthedeveloper at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Paul,
> >
> > It's a good point, you're right. It's difficult to sketch out exactly
> how much information to convey and at what level to pitch it at.
> >
> > I like the siren call idea. If you see pattern A, you might want to try
> solution B.
> > Solution D is also relevant, but maybe not until you start to get C
> happening.
> >
> > It would be good to express a few examples of well known maxims/idioms
> and what issues these solve. Along with situations where they may not be
> appropriate.
> >
> > Maybe with examples simple enough that anyone can imagine the
> progression through into larger and more complex systems, even if they
> haven't experienced that progression first-hand.
> >
> > Basically, I can't teach you Thai, Vietnamese or Japanese, but I could
> help you learn to spot the differences between them. You can learn a few
> greetings and recognize them when confronting them, but you're going to
> need to do some self study to learn anything of value, and you'll need to
> live there to be fluent.
> >
> > I think I'd probably want to focus more on aspects of moving away from
> monoliths if focusing on anything. Especially as that probably sounds
> closer to that title.
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