[LRUG] Recurring Payments and subscriptions

Thu Sep 1 09:59:02 PDT 2011

Opening up this old beauty again:  

Has anyone had specific experience with Recurly + Sage Pay + Sage Pay's bundled merchant account provider Elavon?

It appears that Recurly's hosted payment pages don't meet some of the requirements that Sage Pay mandates around black-listed countries and badging. Elavon, the merchant account provider require VbV or 3D Secure, at which point Recurly can't support them.

Recurly is an "Approved Partner" for Sage Pay…

Assembling a string of three providers that work together well seems to be a real pain in the arse.

Apparently Barclays and HSBC are both pretty relaxed about 3D Secure/VbV so there's some hope in that direction.

On Monday, 31 January 2011 at 15:02, Paul Campbell wrote:

> Paypal Payments Standard is really a fantastic, fantastic solution,
> for what it is.
>  
> With some coaxing, you can also get Paypal Payments Express up and
> running, which is slightly less obtrusive, and lets you use their API
> rather than IPN to be sure a payment goes through:
>  
> http://www.codyfauser.com/2008/1/17/paypal-express-payments-with-activemerchant
>  
> +1 for RealEx with a merchant account, but getting a merchant account,
> for me, isn't really worth the hassle when it's an MVP. I have one,
> but I'm paying monthly for the privilege and not making enough back to
> cover it!
>  
> —P
>  
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Chris Parsons
> <chris at edendevelopment.co.uk (mailto:chris at edendevelopment.co.uk)> wrote:
> > On 31 January 2011 13:54, Tim Harding <tim.harding at gmail.com (mailto:tim.harding at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > It's a shame you've had a different experience, it was a very easy way to
> > > get up and going on day one for us.
> >  
> > Same here: I got Paypal up and running a few years back very easily
> > using recurring payments. We did go through the same process that Tim
> > did, verifying our bank accounts etc, but it wasn't much hassle. Our
> > implementation is a very simple subscribe button which redirects to
> > Paypal's payment pages, so that might explain the difference.
> >  
> > Thanks
> > Chris
> >  
> > > On 30 January 2011 16:40, George Palmer <george.palmer at gmail.com (mailto:george.palmer at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > I've had numerous problems in the past getting PayPal to turn recurring
> > > > > billing on. You need to pay for their Website Payments Pro account,
> > > > > which is
> > > > > not a simple transaction: it's pretty much a full merchant account
> > > > > application, and the bar they ask you to jump over is relatively high.
> > > > > You
> > > > > need to have been trading for 3+ years with them, and have a reasonable
> > > > > trading history with them on their standard package before they'll
> > > > > really
> > > > > consider you, in my experience.
> > > >  
> > > > I'm not sure if that's still the case, or if it is, we seemed to have
> > > > slipped through the net. We setup on a new business account and at
> > > > the time of applying for recurring payments, had been a company for
> > > > less than 2 years.
> > > >  
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