[LRUG] server admin UI on VPS?

[Mickael Riga]

Hello,

No Heroku does not offer this kind of service.
That even defeat the point of Heroku in fact.
Heroku have this cloud/scallability philosophy where everything is separated (mail server, website, other services...).
Each one is in an environment that is made for that.
And your DNS settings are more or less making the glue (which is its main purpose).

Heroku has restriction but when you get the reason for all of them and if you can live with them, that is still one of the easiest option for deploying a ruby-based application.

So like somebody suggested before me, it sounds like you need more control.
You have to setup a beast on your own.
But it doesn't mean you can't use Heroku for the website itself.
It will even save you at least that part of the job.

Now I prefer Heroku.
We still have a server that I administer completely (NGINX and clusters of Thin for Ruby applications).
It is not the end of the world so I'm sure you can do it.
It is just a lot more work when you host an eCommerce because you need to be PCI compliant.
PCI Compliance requires a lot more job in terms of software updates and stuff.
If it is your case, I would recommend a RedHat because their packages are more up-to-date with these kind of requirements.
We've got this one on MediaTemple will do.
Just make sure the Help and Documentation is alright.

Good luck,
Mig




On 21 May 2012, at 18:25, Viktor Tron wrote:

> Hi lruggers, 
> 
> Sorry for this offish email, but so many clever web people here I wanna hear you.
> 
> I developed a rails app. The client also wants to do a lot of management on the server on the same domain, ideally including:
> blog (wordpress) 
> forum (ideally seeded with a phpforum export, but not crucial)
> manage emails, maybe mailing lists
> manage subdomains
> detailed anaylytics
> ftp accounts, manage access
> Since for background jobs I almost defo need root access we opted for a host that offered cpanel-based managed server with root access.
> Now apart from the fact that cpanel feels like a thing of the past and looks like a monster if you look on the server, I also failed to hack apache config to handle my rails app (running on passenger)
> (I simply wanted 2 vhost entries, non-ssl one redirecting to the the other on ssl, already something impossible to do)
> 
> The above seems like a pretty reasonable list of things to want. Now my question to you. How is this best done?
> I do not mind to install wordpress myself and get my hands dirty if you suggest good solutions to the other tasks?
> Are heroku and suchlike rails-friendly hosts offering you these admin UIs and I am just better off trying to get my rails app working without insisting on root shell?
> 
> I appreciate all comments and pointers
> 
> Vik
> 
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