[LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home

[Darragh Browne]

Roundabout.io is cool. I'd registered roundaboutjobs.com to set up
something similar, no need now though!

We also have a free jobs section on Ruby Mash: http://rubymash.com/jobs



Kind regards

Darragh Browne

Dynamic50 & Ruby50 - Web Development & Web Recruitment

Tel: +44 (0) 20 3286 2879
Mob: +44 (0)7788 872465

http://www.ruby50.com



On 17 September 2012 14:18, Richard Hart <richard at ur-ban.com> wrote:

> Another for the pot: http://hackerjobs.co.uk/
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> Warm regards,
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> Richard Hart
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Rosario Rascuna" <r.rascuna at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13pm
> To: "London Ruby Users Group" <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home
>
>  I thought about this problem some time ago and created
> http://roundabout.io.
>
> However I wonder now if it's yet another website that we need. There
> are others like: http://workinstartups.com/ and
> http://www.coderstack.co.uk/, and none seems to be ridding us of this
> problem. What should a job listing implement to work for us?
>
> .r
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Louis Goff-Beardsley
> <louisror at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The vast majority of CVs they get don’t result in placments as their
> > business model is based on volume and speed. Agency recs have got very
> > strict KPIs such as 2.5 hours on the phone + 70 dial outs /day + x
> number of
> > CVs sent to decision makers. If they spend time faffing around with CVs
> they
> > will get it in the neck from their directors who came up during the first
> > dotcom bubble when IT recrutiment was a megaprofitable free-for-all.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chat-bounces at lists.lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces at lists.lrug.org]
> On
> > Behalf Of Paul Robinson
> > Sent: 17 September 2012 12:10
> > To: London Ruby Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home
> >
> > On 17 Sep 2012, at 10:11, Chris Mear <chrismear at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From my conversations with recruiters, the reason Word format is asked
> for
> > is because it's editable (as opposed to something less easily editable,
> such
> > as PDF). This is so they can remove your contact details and add their
> own
> > header, thus making sure any communication goes through them.
> >
> >
> > This is bang-on the reason why they want it in Word format - which raises
> > the question what value are they actually adding to a process where they
> > must enforce a man-in-the-middle attack to negotiations?
> >
> >
> >> So I'm sure plain text would be fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not quite. Some recruiters will consider such a format to be
> > "unprofessional" in its presentation to employers.
> >
> > So, rather than add value themselves by spending 5 minutes
> copying/pasting
> > it into Word, making it look nice and then submitting it, they require
> the
> > candidate does this first. Word Doc is the best format for them.
> >
> > They won't do it themselves, because they might handle many dozens of
> CVs a
> > day, and don't want to have to do this with all of them.
> >
> > Remember, they are commission-based, and there's only so much work they
> are
> > prepared to do to secure the right candidate and take 10%-20% of the
> first
> > year's salary on a £50k-£70k job. I mean, would you reformat a CV for
> > £14,000? I know that's too much work to ask me to do for that kind of
> money!
> > I'm sure there's other areas where the recruiter is really adding far
> more
> > value and where their time is best spent... </sarcasm>
> >
> > Paul
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