[LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home

[Richard Hart]

Another for the pot: http://hackerjobs.co.uk/
 
Warm regards,
 
Richard Hart
http://www.ur-ban.com
richard at ur-ban.com
Twitter: @Hates_
 


-----Original Message-----
From: "Rosario Rascuna" <r.rascuna at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:13pm
To: "London Ruby Users Group" <chat at lists.lrug.org>
Subject: Re: [LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home



I thought about this problem some time ago and created http://roundabout.io.

However I wonder now if it's yet another website that we need. There
are others like: http://workinstartups.com/ and
http://www.coderstack.co.uk/, and none seems to be ridding us of this
problem. What should a job listing implement to work for us?

.r

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Louis Goff-Beardsley
<louisror at gmail.com> wrote:
> The vast majority of CVs they get don’t result in placments as their
> business model is based on volume and speed. Agency recs have got very
> strict KPIs such as 2.5 hours on the phone + 70 dial outs /day + x number of
> CVs sent to decision makers. If they spend time faffing around with CVs they
> will get it in the neck from their directors who came up during the first
> dotcom bubble when IT recrutiment was a megaprofitable free-for-all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chat-bounces at lists.lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces at lists.lrug.org] On
> Behalf Of Paul Robinson
> Sent: 17 September 2012 12:10
> To: London Ruby Users Group
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Expat thinking of coming home
>
> On 17 Sep 2012, at 10:11, Chris Mear <chrismear at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From my conversations with recruiters, the reason Word format is asked for
> is because it's editable (as opposed to something less easily editable, such
> as PDF). This is so they can remove your contact details and add their own
> header, thus making sure any communication goes through them.
>
>
> This is bang-on the reason why they want it in Word format - which raises
> the question what value are they actually adding to a process where they
> must enforce a man-in-the-middle attack to negotiations?
>
>
>> So I'm sure plain text would be fine.
>
>
>
> Not quite. Some recruiters will consider such a format to be
> "unprofessional" in its presentation to employers.
>
> So, rather than add value themselves by spending 5 minutes copying/pasting
> it into Word, making it look nice and then submitting it, they require the
> candidate does this first. Word Doc is the best format for them.
>
> They won't do it themselves, because they might handle many dozens of CVs a
> day, and don't want to have to do this with all of them.
>
> Remember, they are commission-based, and there's only so much work they are
> prepared to do to secure the right candidate and take 10%-20% of the first
> year's salary on a £50k-£70k job. I mean, would you reformat a CV for
> £14,000? I know that's too much work to ask me to do for that kind of money!
> I'm sure there's other areas where the recruiter is really adding far more
> value and where their time is best spent... </sarcasm>
>
> Paul
>
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