[LRUG] ADVICE

Jonathan j.fantham at gmail.com
Fri May 24 03:34:24 PDT 2013


Having worked with recruiters as a candidate, I can't stand the way
recruiters like to keep everyone in the shadows and waste time. I've had
recruiters alter my CV to remove contact details and do anything else they
can to get in between me and information like claiming "what they're
working on is just too secret to tell you anything".

Most seem to say vague unverifiable things in the job description like "a
fantastic opportunity working with a world renowned team" without giving
any real information about the job. If I see a vague job description I
won't look twice because I assume the whole process will be convoluted and
difficult.

Having said that, I understand that people might go directly to the source
if you gave enough information for them to do that so you could lose a fee.
I guess it does come down to money, but that's the recruiter's doing really.

Cheers,
Jono

Morning all,****

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I hope you are well.****

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I appreciate this might be opening a can of worms but I’m keen to get your
thoughts and ideally some advice.****

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I signed up to LRUG a month or so ago in order to try and gain a better
understanding of the Ruby market in London.  I’ve had a positive response
from a few candidates but generally speaking I see antipathy towards
recruitment consultants / agencies.  ****

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I know there’s a stigma attached to our industry but I can assure you we
aren’t all bad!****

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What I’m trying to understand is why employers, and to a certain extent
candidates, are so against working with agencies?  Is it because of fees?
Have you had bad experiences?  If it’s company policy, why is it company
policy?  ****

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I appreciate there are a lot of companies who now operate a direct sourcing
model and simply don’t need to use agencies.  I get that and I understand
your reasoning behind this, but for companies who are struggling to find
good candidates, and don’t have the resources in place to spend the
majority of their day sourcing candidates, why won’t you use agencies?****

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For those of you who are open to working with agencies, what do you feel is
the best way for me to approach your company?      ****

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I’m open to suggestions, although things like die, rot in hell and get out
of recruitment aren’t options I’m afraid :-)****

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I take pride in what I do and so it would be really helpful to get your
thoughts.****

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I don’t want to clog up the mailing list so if you have any thoughts /
advice, I’d be extremely grateful if you drop me an email or alternatively,
feel free to give me a call.   ****

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I look forward to hearing from you.****

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Regards,****

Rob****

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R*ob Beattie – Recruit360 ***

*Tel - 08450 310 360*

*Direct line - +44 (0) 117 906 0146*

rbeattie at recruit360.co.uk  ****

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