[LRUG] ADVICE

[Alex Heeton]

Rob,

I can only share my bad personal experiences. I'm a freelancer and happy to
accept roles via recruiters, but I ask one thing:

Here's what I'm good at and what I'm looking for. Please only talk to me
> about positions that are a good fit for me.


I tell this to everyone who contacts me, and invariably the next message is
something like

Here are 3 roles that match your skills, could you have a look and let me
> know which ones you are interested in?


The roles don't match my skills or goals, and normally show a stupidly big
range from 30k junior developer to 90k senior sysadmin.

When Enthuse.me used a recruiter, he contacted me about the role, not even
doing some basic checks to find out that I *already* worked there.


I've only ever experienced this dumb shotgun-scatter recruitment. Perhaps
there are better recruiters, but I've yet to work with one :)

~Alex

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> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:29:47 +0100
> From: Rob Beattie <RBeattie at recruit360.co.uk>
> To: "chat at lists.lrug.org" <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> Subject: [LRUG] ADVICE
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> Morning all,
>
> I hope you are well.
>
> I appreciate this might be opening a can of worms but I'm keen to get your
> thoughts and ideally some advice.
>
> I signed up to LRUG a month or so ago in order to try and gain a better
> understanding of the Ruby market in London.  I've had a positive response
> from a few candidates but generally speaking I see antipathy towards
> recruitment consultants / agencies.
>
> I know there's a stigma attached to our industry but I can assure you we
> aren't all bad!
>
> What I'm trying to understand is why employers, and to a certain extent
> candidates, are so against working with agencies?  Is it because of fees?
> Have you had bad experiences?  If it's company policy, why is it company
> policy?
>
> I appreciate there are a lot of companies who now operate a direct
> sourcing model and simply don't need to use agencies.  I get that and I
> understand your reasoning behind this, but for companies who are struggling
> to find good candidates, and don't have the resources in place to spend the
> majority of their day sourcing candidates, why won't you use agencies?
>
> For those of you who are open to working with agencies, what do you feel
> is the best way for me to approach your company?
>
> I'm open to suggestions, although things like die, rot in hell and get out
> of recruitment aren't options I'm afraid :-)
>
> I take pride in what I do and so it would be really helpful to get your
> thoughts.
>
> I don't want to clog up the mailing list so if you have any thoughts /
> advice, I'd be extremely grateful if you drop me an email or alternatively,
> feel free to give me a call.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Regards,
> Rob
>
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