[LRUG] Juniors

[Ewan Slater]

One of the best project managers I ever worked with used to hold the same view.

He made a point of only recruiting physics or maths graduates who had picked up programming on the side.


On 22 May 2014 08:35:15 BST, Sasha Gerrand <chat-lists.lrug.org at sgerrand.com> wrote:
>On 22 May 2014 08:24, "Paul Robinson" <paul at iconoplex.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> On 21 May 2014 21:01, Ed Lepedus <ed.lepedus at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Firstly, the word 'junior' has been thrown about so much as to be
>utterly meaningless. The difference between a keen amateur, someone who
>has
>a couple of years experience but just 'fell into it', a CS graduate who
>just scraped a 2:1 and a top-of-class 2nd year undergraduate is HUGE.
>Yet
>they all fall into the same category.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, it's not just junior that means nothing. I'm guilty of
>using
>"senior", but somebody who has spent 7 years working for agencies
>developing microsites for TV production companies (surprisingly common
>in
>some parts of the industry), has had a completely different experience
>to
>somebody who spent 7 years as a quant developer for Goldman Sachs. They
>might understand advanced topics as thoroughly as each other, but
>putting
>them into a real world production project, you will quickly identify
>very
>different strengths and weaknesses.
>>
>> One of the best programmers I've worked with has been under 20, never
>set
>foot in a University and entirely self-taught. One of the worst had a
>PhD
>in CS, 10+ years experience and was very well-read professionally.
>
>There's a great quote about the intersection between good programmers
>and
>good computer scientists being extremely small. I further the source so
>apologies for a lack of attribution.
>
>-Sasha
>
>
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