[LRUG] Chat Digest, Vol 113, Issue 2
Peter Saxton
peterhsaxton at gmail.com
Tue Jun 2 08:26:47 PDT 2015
I would also recommend the well grounded rubyist.
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> 1. Converting from the dark side (Jay Greasley)
> 2. Re: Converting from the dark side (nicolas alpi)
> 3. Re: Converting from the dark side (James McCarthy)
> 4. Re: Converting from the dark side (Najaf Ali)
> 5. Re: Converting from the dark side (Jay Greasley)
> 6. Re: Converting from the dark side (David Burrows)
> 7. Re: Converting from the dark side (Jason Hooper)
> 8. Re: Converting from the dark side (Lucas Mbiwe)
> 9. Re: Converting from the dark side (Florian Gilcher)
> 10. Re: Converting from the dark side (Max Williams)
> 11. Re: Converting from the dark side (Andrew Premdas)
> 12. Re: Converting from the dark side (Ed Davey)
> 13. Re: Converting from the dark side (Sam Livingston-Gray)
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> Hello all,
>
> I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic 3,
> classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the syntax
> and flexibilty.
> I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate for
> the product.
> Has anyone else made a similar move?
> My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> Is it the Pickaxe book?
> I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate metaprogramming
> etc.
>
> All responses are much appreciated
>
> Best
>
> Jay
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> I haven't read the book, but judging by the quality of Justin blog, I would
> probably recommend Practicing Rails.
>
> https://www.justinweiss.com/practicing-rails/
>
> Also, Pragprog has a good collection of reference books
> https://pragprog.com/search?q=rails
>
>
>
> Nicolas Alpi, cookies eater
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> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Jay Greasley <jaygreasley at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> 3,
> > classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> > syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> > for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> > metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> >
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> From: James McCarthy <james at lety.co>
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> Keep in mind that Rails is not Ruby, a lot of people know how to use
> rails but cannot really do anything else using Ruby.
>
> Rails is a great framework for what it does (webapp), have a look at
> other types of tasks (system administration scripts is something Ruby
> has taken over from Perl a little).
>
> James.
>
> On 02/06/15 12:38, Jay Greasley wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual
> > Basic 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net <http://asp.net> stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> > syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good
> > candidate for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> > metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
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> From: Najaf Ali <ali at happybearsoftware.com>
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> For experienced programmers (and beginners as well in some cases) my usual
> recommendation is The Well-Grounded Rubyist by David A. Black.
>
> -Ali
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, James McCarthy <james at lety.co> wrote:
>
> > Keep in mind that Rails is not Ruby, a lot of people know how to use
> > rails but cannot really do anything else using Ruby.
> >
> > Rails is a great framework for what it does (webapp), have a look at
> other
> > types of tasks (system administration scripts is something Ruby has taken
> > over from Perl a little).
> >
> > James.
> >
> >
> > On 02/06/15 12:38, Jay Greasley wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> > 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> > syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> > for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> > metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > --
> > James McCarthy
> >
> > Software Consultant
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:52:52 +0100
> From: Jay Greasley <jay at firecomputing.co.uk>
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> Hi James,
>
> Thanks. I'm keen to understand Ruby first. I know my way round the mvc
> pattern, if not the Rails specifics. At this stage I don't know if Rails is
> overkill for the project so am aware of keeping a very open mind.
>
> Best
>
> Jay
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, James McCarthy <james at lety.co> wrote:
>
> > Keep in mind that Rails is not Ruby, a lot of people know how to use
> > rails but cannot really do anything else using Ruby.
> >
> > Rails is a great framework for what it does (webapp), have a look at
> other
> > types of tasks (system administration scripts is something Ruby has taken
> > over from Perl a little).
> >
> > James.
> >
> > On 02/06/15 12:38, Jay Greasley wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> > 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> > syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> > for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> > metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > --
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> >
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:04:26 +0100
> From: David Burrows <david at designsuperbuild.com>
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> +1 for The Well Grounded Rubyist
>
> --
> David Burrows
> 079 1234 2125
> @dburrows
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>
> On 2 June 2015 at 12:52, Jay Greasley <jay at firecomputing.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Thanks. I'm keen to understand Ruby first. I know my way round the mvc
> > pattern, if not the Rails specifics. At this stage I don't know if Rails
> is
> > overkill for the project so am aware of keeping a very open mind.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, James McCarthy <james at lety.co> wrote:
> >
> >> Keep in mind that Rails is not Ruby, a lot of people know how to use
> >> rails but cannot really do anything else using Ruby.
> >>
> >> Rails is a great framework for what it does (webapp), have a look at
> >> other types of tasks (system administration scripts is something Ruby
> has
> >> taken over from Perl a little).
> >>
> >> James.
> >>
> >> On 02/06/15 12:38, Jay Greasley wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> >> 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> >> But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> >> I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> >> syntax and flexibilty.
> >> I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> >> for the product.
> >> Has anyone else made a similar move?
> >> My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> >> Is it the Pickaxe book?
> >> I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> >> metaprogramming etc.
> >>
> >> All responses are much appreciated
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> --
> >> James McCarthy
> >>
> >> Software Consultant
> >>
> >> LetyCo
> >>
> >> Mob: 07577006897
> >>
> >> Email: james at lety.co
> >> lety.co
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:07:01 +0100
> From: Jason Hooper <jason.hooper at talk21.com>
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>
> Hi Jay,
>
> I came from a similar route plus 370 Assembler, C, Delphi, Pascal, etc. I
> then worked for several years as a DBA too. The best option I found to get
> back into development was to use a bootcamp. The one I decided on was
> WeGotCoders (http://wegotcoders.com/ <http://wegotcoders.com/>). They
> went through everything from HTML and the DOM, through javascript and
> frameworks, right into writing Rails apps (and even Gems). They then also
> placed me with a client. This did mean that I dropped back to junior level,
> but am loving the change!
>
> If you want to go the self-study route I would recommend learning Ruby
> before you tackle Rails and full stack development. Getting to know a
> javascript framework would also be a good idea. To this end there are a lot
> of courses available. I used Lynda (http://www.lynda.com <
> http://www.lynda.com/>) and others that I just googled for. I then also
> found a really good SAAS MOOC course on EdX through UC Berkley (
> https://www.edx.org/course/engineering-software-service-uc-berkeleyx-cs169-1x
> <
> https://www.edx.org/course/engineering-software-service-uc-berkeleyx-cs169-1x>
> and the follow on of cs169.2). Maybe diving into the more intense books
> after the basics would make more sense. It did for me.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Regards,
>
>
> > On 2 Jun 2015, at 12:38, Jay Greasley <jaygreasley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net <http://asp.net/> stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:17:25 +0200
> From: Lucas Mbiwe <lucas at geek4good.com>
> To: London Ruby Users Group <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Converting from the dark side
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> Hi Jay,
>
> Welcome to the community!
>
> On 2 June 2015 at 13:53:18, Jay Greasley (jay at firecomputing.co.uk) wrote:
> Thanks. I'm keen to understand Ruby first. I know my way round the mvc
> pattern, if not the Rails specifics. At this stage I don't know if Rails is
> overkill for the project so am aware of keeping a very open mind.
> I've heard good things about The Well-Grounded Rubyist. So I'm sure
> picking up a copy of it wouldn't be a mistake.
>
> I personally prefer Eloquent Ruby by Russ Olson, as it covers all the
> language specifics with a strong focus on idioms (?Write Code That Looks
> Like Ruby?). It even covers metaprogramming and touches on building gems (a
> bit outdated but the basics still apply).
>
> --?Lucas
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:36:00 +0200
> From: Florian Gilcher <flo at andersground.net>
> To: London Ruby Users Group <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Converting from the dark side
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> Hi,
>
> if you have experience with programming languages and want a good overview
> of the ideas behind the language, "The Ruby Programming Language" by
> Flanagan & Matsumoto is the definitive source. It documents Ruby 1.9, but
> the language is still by and large the same.
>
> Best,
> Florian
>
> On 02 Jun 2015, at 13:38, Jay Greasley <jaygreasley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:42:06 +0100
> From: Max Williams <toastkid.williams at gmail.com>
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> After reading about the core Ruby language, The Ruby Cookbook is a great
> way to expand your understanding of how to *use* Ruby.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cookbook-Cookbooks-OReilly-Lucas-Carlson/dp/0596523696
>
> On 2 June 2015 at 13:36, Florian Gilcher <flo at andersground.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > if you have experience with programming languages and want a good
> overview
> > of the ideas behind the language, "The Ruby Programming Language" by
> > Flanagan & Matsumoto is the definitive source. It documents Ruby 1.9, but
> > the language is still by and large the same.
> >
> > Best,
> > Florian
> >
> > On 02 Jun 2015, at 13:38, Jay Greasley <jaygreasley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> 3,
> > classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> > But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> > I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> > syntax and flexibilty.
> > I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> > for the product.
> > Has anyone else made a similar move?
> > My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> > Is it the Pickaxe book?
> > I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> > metaprogramming etc.
> >
> > All responses are much appreciated
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jay
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:03:19 +0100
> From: Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com>
> To: London Ruby Users Group <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Converting from the dark side
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> +1 for Eloquent Ruby
>
> On 2 June 2015 at 13:42, Max Williams <toastkid.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > After reading about the core Ruby language, The Ruby Cookbook is a great
> > way to expand your understanding of how to *use* Ruby.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cookbook-Cookbooks-OReilly-Lucas-Carlson/dp/0596523696
> >
> > On 2 June 2015 at 13:36, Florian Gilcher <flo at andersground.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> if you have experience with programming languages and want a good
> >> overview of the ideas behind the language, "The Ruby Programming
> Language"
> >> by Flanagan & Matsumoto is the definitive source. It documents Ruby 1.9,
> >> but the language is still by and large the same.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Florian
> >>
> >> On 02 Jun 2015, at 13:38, Jay Greasley <jaygreasley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> >> 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> >> But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> >> I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> >> syntax and flexibilty.
> >> I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> >> for the product.
> >> Has anyone else made a similar move?
> >> My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> >> Is it the Pickaxe book?
> >> I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> >> metaprogramming etc.
> >>
> >> All responses are much appreciated
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Jay
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chat mailing list
> >> Chat at lists.lrug.org
> >> Archives: http://lists.lrug.org/pipermail/chat-lrug.org
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> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:11:37 +0100
> From: Ed Davey <ed at veryreal.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Converting from the dark side
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> +1 for The Ruby Cookbook
>
> I also learnt a lot of useful Ruby from James Edward Gray II's "Best of
> Ruby Quiz", out of print but cheap 2nd hand (http://goo.gl/oUBrk4)
>
> Ed
>
> > On 2 Jun 2015, at 14:03, Andrew Premdas <apremdas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for Eloquent Ruby
> >
> > On 2 June 2015 at 13:42, Max Williams <toastkid.williams at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > After reading about the core Ruby language, The Ruby Cookbook is a great
> way to expand your understanding of how to use Ruby.
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cookbook-Cookbooks-OReilly-Lucas-Carlson/dp/0596523696
> >
> > On 2 June 2015 at 13:36, Florian Gilcher <flo at andersground.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > if you have experience with programming languages and want a good
> overview of the ideas behind the language, "The Ruby Programming Language"
> by Flanagan & Matsumoto is the definitive source. It documents Ruby 1.9,
> but the language is still by and large the same.
> >
> > Best,
> > Florian
> >
> > On 02 Jun 2015, at 13:38, Jay Greasley <jaygreasley at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I'm a bit of a dinosaur, having started with COBOL through Visual Basic
> 3, classic asp and then onto the asp.net stack.
> >> But, I'm really interested in moving over to using Ruby.
> >> I supported an old Rails 2.3 app a couple of years ago and liked the
> syntax and flexibilty.
> >> I have a new work opportunity where Ruby appears to be a good candidate
> for the product.
> >> Has anyone else made a similar move?
> >> My main question is what one book would you recommend to start with.
> >> Is it the Pickaxe book?
> >> I'm sure it'll take a while to change mindset to appreciate
> metaprogramming etc.
> >>
> >> All responses are much appreciated
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Jay
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Chat mailing list
> >> Chat at lists.lrug.org
> >> Archives: http://lists.lrug.org/pipermail/chat-lrug.org
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:21:37 -0700
> From: Sam Livingston-Gray <geeksam at gmail.com>
> To: London Ruby Users Group <chat at lists.lrug.org>
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Converting from the dark side
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> +1. Eloquent Ruby is one of the few tech books I've read cover to cover
> and enjoyed all the way through. It's a screencast, not a book, but you
> might also find Ruby Tapas useful for picking up Ruby idioms.
>
> --
> (Sent from phone. Please excuse: brevity, top posting, hilarious
> autocorrections.)
>
> > On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:17 AM, Lucas Mbiwe <lucas at geek4good.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > Welcome to the community!
> >
> >> On 2 June 2015 at 13:53:18, Jay Greasley (jay at firecomputing.co.uk)
> wrote:
> >> Thanks. I'm keen to understand Ruby first. I know my way round the mvc
> pattern, if not the Rails specifics. At this stage I don't know if Rails is
> overkill for the project so am aware of keeping a very open mind.
> >
> > I've heard good things about The Well-Grounded Rubyist. So I'm sure
> picking up a copy of it wouldn't be a mistake.
> >
> > I personally prefer Eloquent Ruby by Russ Olson, as it covers all the
> language specifics with a strong focus on idioms (?Write Code That Looks
> Like Ruby?). It even covers metaprogramming and touches on building gems (a
> bit outdated but the basics still apply).
> >
> > -- Lucas
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