[LRUG] Chat Digest, Vol 196, Issue 8

[Rob Whittaker]

Hey, Alex!

Thanks for voicing your concerns over the salary we offer for this position. We
have not been clear in defining the size of the company or the responsibilities
in the role. I'd love to chat with you so that we can clear this up for the rest
of the group. We need to set our salaries at the right level and ensure we are
straightforward in how we advertise our roles. Do you want to [put some time on
my calendar][] to talk about it?

— Rob

[put some time on my calendar]: https://calendly.com/purinkle/coffee


> On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Alex Slade <alex at heaton.me> wrote:
> 
> (I'm considering how to positively contribute to this, but feel I need to say something on behalf of the other devs on this list and those who might have less experience with salaries and negotiating...) 
> 
> 70k lower bracket for a team lead?? At Thoughtbot? (And that's only in the UK, if you're applying elsewhere in the world salary is dependent on location! 
> 
> That might have been a good salary 5 years ago. 
> 
> I'm seeing *entry level* dev roles trending towards ~50k GBP in the UK, we're going to be seeing 70k being offered for someone with 2-3 years experience, especially at a larger firm that is trying to attract good people. But for a team lead? Woah. 
> 
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>>    1. [JOB] Development Team Lead at thoughtbot (?70,500 ? ?85,000)
>>       (Rob Whittaker)
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>> Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 14:33:53 +0100
>> From: Rob Whittaker <rob at thoughtbot.com>
>> To: London Ruby Users Group <chat at lists.lrug.org>
>> Subject: [LRUG] [JOB] Development Team Lead at thoughtbot (?70,500 ?
>> ?85,000)
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>> Hey everyone,
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>> Chiming in to say that thoughtbot is hiring a Development Team Lead (UK salary range: ?70,500 ? ?85,000).
>> 
>> https://thoughtbot.com/jobs/development-team-lead-remote-emea-region-F9ADC5172A
>> 
>> We're a software consultancy and the creators of many gems. You may know us from factory_bot and shoulda_matchers, among others.
>> 
>> I've been here for over 5 years and love it for many reasons. I love our commitment to continuous learning and improvement. After all this time, I am still learning new things and experimenting.
>> 
>> The positions are available to anyone in the UK, Europe, the Middle East, and Africa (UTC-2 through UTC+3).
>> 
>> Salary and benefits vary by location and country. I have listed the UK salary range for each role in the above list. You can find more details about compensation for non-UK applicants in our playbook.
>> 
>> https://thoughtbot.com/playbook/our-company/hiring
>> 
>> You can read more about the role on our jobs page.
>> 
>> https://thoughtbot.com/jobs#europe-middle-east-africa
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>> I'm happy to chat about any of our open roles; feel free to reach out!
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>> https://calendly.com/purinkle/coffee
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