[LRUG] Outsourcing

[Rob Anderson]

Hi Alan

We're really not doing this for cost reasons - I'd much rather pay a market salary to a UK developer who can sit next to me - but there just aren't the candidates for permanent roles at the moment.  

I guess the popularity of Rails is outstripping supply, but as it's an easy framework to learn, I know what I'd be doing in my spare time if I were a student :)

Rob


On 5 Jan 2012, at 10:32, Alan Buxton wrote:

> Hi Rob (and LRUG)
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> I spoke to the c42.in guys a while ago. Very impressive and said all the right things (e.g. all their work was BDD and pair programmed, not negotiable).
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> I would say don't go offshore purely from a cost point of view - esp once you factor in things like timezone differences, communication overheads, R&D tax credits etc you won’t save much money.
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> Having said all this I tend to look at Eastern Europe for my outsourcing needs and right now am working with a couple of teams out that way. One of those teams in particular is from a company that was born out of some offshoring work for a big bank. Happy to talk further and put you in touch if you want.
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> I won't be at LRUG on Monday unfortunately (big release to get finished and out by then). But do drop me a line off-list if you want any intros.
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> From: chat-bounces at lists.lrug.org [mailto:chat-bounces at lists.lrug.org] On Behalf Of Stevie Graham
> Sent: 05 January 2012 10:18
> To: London Ruby Users Group
> Subject: Re: [LRUG] Outsourcing
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> yea i remember those guys. they mentioned they were over-subscribed at the time, but i recommend reaching out to them, you can find them at http://c42.in/
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> Stevie Graham (@stevegraham)
> git.io/sg
> Developer Evangelist
> Twilio, Inc
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> On 5 Jan 2012, at 10:12, Mark Burns wrote:
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> I met some guys from an Indian firm that have a relationship with Engine Yard at RubyConf last year. Seemed to be saying and doing all the right things and seemed to have a good reputation. I'll try and dig out their details and get back to you. 
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> On 5 January 2012 09:51, Rob Anderson <rob.anderson at paymentcardsolutions.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello LRUG
> 
> We've been trying to recruit for a permanent Rails position for a while now, and it isn't going well.  Judging from the number of job posts on this board, we're not alone in this.
> 
> So, very reluctantly, I'm considering outsourcing the role, probably to India.  Does anyone have any experience with this / advice to offer?
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> Our constraints:
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> - we're a financial services company, so trust is a big issue
> - we have a large and expanding code base, so there is an upfront investment in time before anyone can really contribute properly.  So we're looking for a long term relationship.
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> I'll be at the LRUG meeting on Monday - look forward to seeing you all there.
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> Rob
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> PS We've taken a long hard look at the recruitment agency route, and it's not for us.  So please, don't contact me if you are recruiter.  Thanks!
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