[LRUG] ADVICE

[Buford Taylor]

s/*does/doesn't/

That being said. I've met a couple good recruiters in my time back in San
Francisco. They're the ones who can do a brief technical phone screen for
you. They're the ones who understand that a github profile is often more
important than if the candidate went to university. They're the ones who
can recognize a good startup candidate who is hungry for success.

I'd rather have one good CV a week than 15 bad ones.

I've only run into one here in the UK that can provide that kind of quality
(LouisROR).


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jim Myhrberg <contact at jimeh.me> wrote:

> That's pretty much the same experience I've had with recruiters too.
>
> I've been offered various iOS development roles too, despite never having
> touched iOS development or Objective-C. But my resume does mention I worked
> on an island in Greece called "Ios" (that's "ios" with a capital "i"). In
> short, they use stupid case-insensitive text searches of CVs without
> actually reading them.
>
> -jimeh
> On 24 May 2013 13:11, "Alex Heeton" <alex at heeton.me> wrote:
>
>> Rob,
>>
>> I can only share my bad personal experiences. I'm a freelancer and happy
>> to accept roles via recruiters, but I ask one thing:
>>
>> Here's what I'm good at and what I'm looking for. Please only talk to me
>>> about positions that are a good fit for me.
>>
>>
>> I tell this to everyone who contacts me, and invariably the next message
>> is something like
>>
>> Here are 3 roles that match your skills, could you have a look and let me
>>> know which ones you are interested in?
>>
>>
>> The roles don't match my skills or goals, and normally show a stupidly
>> big range from 30k junior developer to 90k senior sysadmin.
>>
>> When Enthuse.me used a recruiter, he contacted me about the role, not
>> even doing some basic checks to find out that I *already* worked there.
>>
>>
>> I've only ever experienced this dumb shotgun-scatter recruitment. Perhaps
>> there are better recruiters, but I've yet to work with one :)
>>
>> ~Alex
>>
>>  Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:29:47 +0100
>>> From: Rob Beattie <RBeattie at recruit360.co.uk>
>>> To: "chat at lists.lrug.org" <chat at lists.lrug.org>
>>> Subject: [LRUG] ADVICE
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <9A31D8218BBCCC48BA9AF1B7F620B92F31FF6A12F3 at RS01.Recruit360.local
>>> >
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Morning all,
>>>
>>> I hope you are well.
>>>
>>> I appreciate this might be opening a can of worms but I'm keen to get
>>> your thoughts and ideally some advice.
>>>
>>> I signed up to LRUG a month or so ago in order to try and gain a better
>>> understanding of the Ruby market in London.  I've had a positive response
>>> from a few candidates but generally speaking I see antipathy towards
>>> recruitment consultants / agencies.
>>>
>>> I know there's a stigma attached to our industry but I can assure you we
>>> aren't all bad!
>>>
>>> What I'm trying to understand is why employers, and to a certain extent
>>> candidates, are so against working with agencies?  Is it because of fees?
>>> Have you had bad experiences?  If it's company policy, why is it company
>>> policy?
>>>
>>> I appreciate there are a lot of companies who now operate a direct
>>> sourcing model and simply don't need to use agencies.  I get that and I
>>> understand your reasoning behind this, but for companies who are struggling
>>> to find good candidates, and don't have the resources in place to spend the
>>> majority of their day sourcing candidates, why won't you use agencies?
>>>
>>> For those of you who are open to working with agencies, what do you feel
>>> is the best way for me to approach your company?
>>>
>>> I'm open to suggestions, although things like die, rot in hell and get
>>> out of recruitment aren't options I'm afraid :-)
>>>
>>> I take pride in what I do and so it would be really helpful to get your
>>> thoughts.
>>>
>>> I don't want to clog up the mailing list so if you have any thoughts /
>>> advice, I'd be extremely grateful if you drop me an email or alternatively,
>>> feel free to give me a call.
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>
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