[LRUG] ADVICE

Wed May 29 01:21:28 PDT 2013

@YHH, it is cowardly to hide behind an alias when you publicly condemn
others. You bring shame on this house!

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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Steve Buckley <
sbuckley at globalpersonals.co.uk> wrote:

> Morning LRUG
>
> If anyone has any issues or questions over the issue raised by 'Yukihiro
> Heninemeir Hansson' (I thought that may have been _why the lucky stiff's
> true identity for a minute) then by all means feel free to email me
> directly. We're happy to put a balanced perspective on the issue but
> discussing it publicly in this thread adds zero value to the group.
>
> Those of you who know me, know that I don't pull any punches and I don't
> shy away from confrontation and as Michael graciously pointed out
> yesterday, I have no issue setting the record straight.
>
> Steve
>
> On 28 May 2013, at 15:12, Yukihiro Heinemeier Hansson <
> yukihiroheinemeierhansson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I'm a senior developer and I'm interested in getting a job at Global Web
> Dev, I just have a quick question.
>
> I saw the exposé that channel 4 did on you guys:
>
>
> http://www.channel4.com/news/fools-for-love-how-one-internet-dating-firm-dupes-clients
>
>
> I was wondering what the split is between time developing and time spent
> pretending to be a woman on the internet? I have to say that of the two I'm
> far stronger at development.
>
> Thanks, YHH
>
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Fantastic post. I'd like to repost the comment I left on your blog here
> for clarity:
>
>
> *Great article but I'd like to point out that whilst I'm flattered by
> your comments, I'm not an agency recruiter. Hacker Jobs is very much an
> independent side project and my full-time day job is as the in-house Tech
> Recruitment Manager for Globaldev. I don't consult with any other companies
> and have literally zero intention of ever venturing back into the world of
> agency recruitment.*
>
> *That being said, if you're a rubyist in London then there's an
> exceptionally high chance of running into me sooner rather than later as
> Globaldev are growing immensely.*
>
>
> Great work Najaf.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 24 May 2013, at 15:22, Najaf Ali <ali at happybearsoftware.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Late to the party I know, but I started writing a reply and it turned into
> the Iliad. It had a fun story in it so I went ahead and published it to my
> blog instead:
>
>
>
> http://happybearsoftware.com/my-experiences-with-recruiters-and-how-id-like-to-be-sold-to.html
>
>
> There's no identifying information but if you'd like me to remove the
> quote, let me know. Also, Steve (Buckley), you're in it.
>
>
> -Ali
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Rob Beattie <RBeattie at recruit360.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Morning all,
>
>
> I hope you are well.
>
>
> I appreciate this might be opening a can of worms but I’m keen to get your
> thoughts and ideally some advice.
>
>
> I signed up to LRUG a month or so ago in order to try and gain a better
> understanding of the Ruby market in London.  I’ve had a positive response
> from a few candidates but generally speaking I see antipathy towards
> recruitment consultants / agencies.
>
>
> I know there’s a stigma attached to our industry but I can assure you we
> aren’t all bad!
>
>
> What I’m trying to understand is why employers, and to a certain extent
> candidates, are so against working with agencies?  Is it because of fees?
> Have you had bad experiences?  If it’s company policy, why is it company
> policy?
>
>
> I appreciate there are a lot of companies who now operate a direct
> sourcing model and simply don’t need to use agencies.  I get that and I
> understand your reasoning behind this, but for companies who are struggling
> to find good candidates, and don’t have the resources in place to spend the
> majority of their day sourcing candidates, why won’t you use agencies?
>
>
> For those of you who are open to working with agencies, what do you feel
> is the best way for me to approach your company?
>
>
> I’m open to suggestions, although things like die, rot in hell and get out
> of recruitment aren’t options I’m afraid :-)
>
>
> I take pride in what I do and so it would be really helpful to get your
> thoughts.
>
>
> I don’t want to clog up the mailing list so if you have any thoughts /
> advice, I’d be extremely grateful if you drop me an email or alternatively,
> feel free to give me a call.
>
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
> R*ob Beattie – Recruit360 *
>
> *Tel - 08450 310 360*
>
> *Direct line - +44 (0) 117 906 0146*
>
> rbeattie at recruit360.co.uk
>
>
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>
> --
>
> Ali, http://happybearsoftware.com
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>  *
> Steve Buckley*
> Technical Recruitment Manager @globaldev <https://twitter.com/globaldev>
> *P:  *01753 271289
> *M: *07538 647117
>
>
>  <http://www.globaldev.co.uk>
>  <http://www.globaldev.co.uk>
>
>
> Global Personals is a limited company registered in England and Wales.
>
> Registered number: 04880697
>
> Registered office: Minton Place, Victoria Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4
> 1EG, United Kingdom
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